Creating Experimental Black Crele Chickens (Different Genetics, new variety)

[HuffleClaw]

OP has already stated she is working with a scientist that knows chicken genetics and has discussed genetics with him and he agreed with everything she discussed.
She has also stated that genetics as known now is probably outdated and wrong and this experiment may rewrite some of that outdated ideas.
Seems odd with the subject of this thread and her interest in genetics that she would not want to talk of genetics.

Oh well then I dunno

 

[The Moonshiner]

But isn't the extended black from the barred rocks contributing the black areas of your project and the buff from the wheaten based orps contributing the buff coloring?
Its taking both extended black and wheaten at the e loci for your pattern. How can you maintain both in future generations?
You'll produce a lot of extended black/extended black and wheaten/wheaten offspring as well.
Will those just be throw aways?

 

[MysteryChicken]

But isn't the extended black from the barred rocks contributing the black areas of your project and the buff from the wheaten based orps contributing the buff coloring?
Its taking both extended black and wheaten at the e loci for your pattern. How can you maintain both in future generations?
You'll produce a lot of extended black/extended black and wheaten/wheaten offspring as well.
Will those just be throw aways?

It takes 5 years to make a breed, or a different colored chicken breed true. Yes, I know the extended black comes from the barred rocks. I'll inform you guys if breeding back to the mother has an effect on coloration negatively, or does an enhancement instead. If that doesn't turn out right I'll try a sibling breeding of the same cross to see if I get better results. It's a long process. To maintain my color in future generations is to strengthen my color genetics bloodline with new blood of same color pattern from different parents.

 

[The Moonshiner]

Depending on what birds are used and what constitutes the new breed someone is making plus how they select and breed that determines how long it takes. There's no set time. It may take 5 years, 10 years, 20 years or never be accomplished.
As far as a new variety or color some can be created and breed true in two generations. Many can in three.
I've made new varieties myself. Just hatched another new one yesterday that took two years.
Its a self blue (lavender) silver duckwing pattern
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[Cyprus]

Depending on what birds are used and what constitutes the new breed someone is making plus how they select and breed that determines how long it takes. There's no set time. It may take 5 years, 10 years, 20 years or never be accomplished.
As far as a new variety or color some can be created and breed true in two generations. Many can in three.
I've made new varieties myself. Just hatched another new one yesterday that took two years.

Congrats on the newest variety!

 

[The Moonshiner]

Congrats on the newest variety!

Thank you
Didn't seem to want to load but I posted it on my thread.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Depending on what birds are used and what constitutes the new breed someone is making plus how they select and breed that determines how long it takes. There's no set time. It may take 5 years, 10 years, 20 years or never be accomplished.
As far as a new variety or color some can be created and breed true in two generations. Many can in three.
I've made new varieties myself. Just hatched another new one yesterday that took two years.
Its a self blue (lavender) silver duckwing pattern
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Site won't let me see attachment. Alot of different chicken breeding sites say five years before a chicken breed will breed true.

 

[MysteryChicken]

I moved my young flock in with the banties until they're old enough to go in with my main flock.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Depending on what birds are used and what constitutes the new breed someone is making plus how they select and breed that determines how long it takes. There's no set time. It may take 5 years, 10 years, 20 years or never be accomplished.
As far as a new variety or color some can be created and breed true in two generations. Many can in three.
I've made new varieties myself. Just hatched another new one yesterday that took two years.
Its a self blue (lavender) silver duckwing pattern
View attachment 1782200

Is the chicken color you made anything like this?

They call it a blue silver.

 

[The Moonshiner]

Some what.
That one is blue as in blue black splash blue aka andalusian blue.
Mine is same pattern but self blue aka lavender. Like a lavender Orpington blue.
I am working on one exactly like that pic also. Maybe have one by end of summer. Depends on how many I hatch and how lucky I get.
I'll repost pic but its just a day old chick. I have never seen any birds in this pattern so can't show any adult pic.
I'm sure there's one out there somewhere I may search for a pic later.