Critque 2yro RPSI gelding

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I love him! What a gorgeous face, he's got!

I do not think his back is too long & the downhill thing--horses grow butt first...so he's going to be butt high while he's growing, anyway!

This is my butt high filly at a year old:

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And at age two:
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And this filly's dam is SUPER long-backed. I purposely found a stud which is a little too short-backed, & hoped for the best that it would even out. (The dam is 15 hands tall & wears a 78" blanket)!
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Anyway, the filly will be four next month & my plan worked! Her back is about perfect.
 
UPDATE in initial post - slide show of current pictures.... (disappointment
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(equibling - Your filly is gorgeous! She looks like she's filling out nicely and is going to be a big girl... what breed?)
 
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I'm glad you asked for more pictures, too. Those legs don't look so good. For what you want to do, I would pass him up. I'm sorry to say that to you... But there's got to be a better one out there.
 
Being toed-out is commonly a trimming issue.... if it is, and is fixed ASAP, it won't become a joint adaptation.

Cow-hocked? Maybe. Most horses are a touch. Plus- he's growing- and if he's toed out he's gonna be cow-hocked...

With how he moves, if the price is right, I wouldn't pass him up- but definitely find a good trimmer to straighten him out.
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You could always look again in 6 mo, but you're risking him being gone by then.
 
Okay, so now I have to know - what are they asking?

I don't like his back end at all now that I've seen in 'kinda' set up (they didn't take the photos dead on, hmm). He's almost appropriate for a draftie, but is too cow hocked IMO for a good jumper. I've had a couple of TBs with similar rear confo and they really couldn't handle more than 4' consistently. Another photo they ommitted was a head on shot of him trotting (I bet he dishes). He's toed out on the fores to the exact angle of our Arab/Paso mutt gelding, who dishes significantly. Fine for a trail horse, but add that to being behind at the knee and, you're right, he might not hold up well as a jumper.

My rant for the day:

I don't care what your situation is - I don't care what your income is - if you have horses, the 'hay situation' is NO excuse for a ribby horse. This makes me SO mad. We are, well, not wealthy, and horses are now just a fun (and expensive) past time for me. The southeast is in the worst shape across the country as far as hay goes (ie a good grass hay will now run you around $10 a bale for a wee little 50 lb square) - and yet none of our horses EVER have gotten ribby, not even slighly, since the hay shortage hit. You tighten your belt buckle and FEED your HORSES. Before I sold her in January to a dressage home, my Perchie mare ate $85 worth of hay all by herself every week (a whole round bale) as opposed to the $20 it cost us two years ago - and we made do. Horses are a luxury...freaking pay for them. :thun
 
Kate, on a young horse I would WAY rather see the shadow of a few ribs than see rolls of fat which are so common to see. (edited to add: of course, what I would *most* prefer is the horse just *about* to show a few ribs but not actually doing so
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He seems to be growing into his neck, which is a good thing as it was awfully long in the earlier pictures. I still cannot possibly see his back as long... actually I'd say it's just about exactly what you want for something that will jump, could even absorb a teensy bit *more* length for big fences.

I still don't like his lower legs though. His hooves are still awfully far out in front of his cannons, and IMO that is a structure issue not a trimming error. (Not that I am impressed with how he seems to be trimmed). His knees and hocks are rather high and he is rather light of bone below them and just looks like a suspensory problem waiting to happen.

I don't like how his hind feet toe out from (apparently) the fetlocks... but I would not place too much credence on photos shot with him stood up just once, and all hairy at that. If he toes out like that from the stifles, he may be relatively ok, power and soundness wise, but if he toes out more at the toes than at the stifles then I would profoundly not consider him for an athletic career unless you own stock in pharmaceutical companies (and of course, not even then).

Other than that, his hind end doesn't bother me *too* much unless you are looking for something to do The Serious Big Jumpers with, and personally I would not aim him for that just because of soundness prospects (I don't think it's fair to the horse -- and while *some* upper level jumpers with crappy legs can be kept going with careful management and medical expenditures, MOST can't and I just don't think it's nice to toast most of 'em just to find the few that you can soldier on with).

Didn't watch the video b/c am on dialup and don't have all morning ;P I wouldn't worry about winging, or a *small* amount of dishing, in front (assuming you want a jumper not a show hunter of course). To me, straight *hind end* movement is a more important predictor of Can he get over the fence and Will he stay reasonably sound while doing it repeatedly.

I'd take him as a freebie to train but I wouldn't pay money unless I just looooved his personality and cute nosie and wanted a lifelong buddy no matter what he could -- or couldn't -- soundly do. Which does not sound like what you're shopping for. Sorry,

JMHO,

Pat
 
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They are asking quite a bit for him, which I find to be overpriced especially for an un-started gelding. They have him priced at 12K, but have promised to sell him to for for around 7K if I was really interested - they want him to go to a "show home." (+ it's good to have those "connections")

I'm a bit torn about what to do... I mean, he's a gorgeous horse, I love his stride, and he seems to have so much potential, but I don't feel I can chance spending that much on a horse that may or may not grow out of it and may or may not be sound for what I want him to do.

I agree, if he was given to me free I would snatch him up in a heart beat, but then again...I currently board my horses, so having to pay monthly stabling on a young gelding who may not be up to par probably isn't the best idea...

Ah, I'll see what happens... but I think he's going to be a no-go for me.
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I'm a cheapie so I think $7000 is a bit much. I tend to find the diamonds in the rough and patience has been the key for me.
 

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