Crossing my Red Ranger Hens.

[BlueBaby]

@Compost King I like that middle hen up front in the 2nd picture above. I think the coloring is pretty, and would love to have one of my Naked Neck's with that color and feather pattern.

 

[Compost King]

@Compost King I like that middle hen up front in the 2nd picture above. I think the coloring is pretty, and would love to have one of my Naked Neck's with that color and feather pattern.

Thats an Incomplete Columbia Pattern, half of her offspring with the Silver Grey (silver duckwing) Dorking will have the Silver duckwing pattern and the other half will be Incomplete Columbian with the exception of the males who do not have the Incomplete pattern they go full Columbian. Half of each will have "Red Shoulders" and all the hens in that picture have it but you can barely see it in the picture. Also this spreads over the wings and on the back a bit. Thats according to this Chicken Calculator that I used http://kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html?mgt=E:e+/e+,S:S/(S)&fgt=E:E^Wh/E^Wh,Mh:Mh/Mh,Co:Co/Co,Db:Db/Db

I suppose it be hard to make that pattern into breed because no male seems to able to have it. I shall be hatching out some eggs and putting the theory to the test. I love using Red to flush out a columbian pattern from a Duckwing pattern. I will be doing this will leghorns in the fall. I want columbian leghorns which are very rare in the USA but somewhat common in Europe.

 

[BlueBaby]

Thats an Incomplete Columbia Pattern, half of her offspring with the Silver Grey (silver duckwing) Dorking will have the Silver duckwing pattern and the other half will be Incomplete Columbian with the exception of the males who do not have the Incomplete pattern they go full Columbian. Half of each will have "Red Shoulders" and all the hens in that picture have it but you can barely see it in the picture. Also this spreads over the wings and on the back a bit. Thats according to this Chicken Calculator that I used http://kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html?mgt=E:e+/e+,S:S/(S)&fgt=E:E^Wh/E^Wh,Mh:Mh/Mh,Co:Co/Co,Dbb/Db

I suppose it be hard to make that pattern into breed because no male seems to able to have it. I shall be hatching out some eggs and putting the theory to the test. I love using Red to flush out a columbian pattern from a Duckwing pattern. I will be doing this will leghorns in the fall. I want columbian leghorns which are very rare in the USA but somewhat common in Europe.

Lucky for you that I don't live over there by you. I'd be running over there to grab some of her egg's, to mix into my Naked Neck's!

 

[Compost King]

I can send you hatching eggs if you want. No guarantee they are viable after the trip. Probably wait until it cools off before I can send them since they will be going from one hot area of the country to another. All the females have that pattern but the one in the middle just stands out more due to the angle the sun hit. A few of them (not in the picture) had a lighter version. There is also some red coloring which can't be seen in the picture. I plan to breed it out.
Those girls are getting rather large I might weigh one of them tonight just out of curiosity.
If you lived near by I would give one hen(or more) to you, I do not need all of them and after a couple of hatches I will not need any of them anymore because I will be breeding their offspring. A friend of mines wife really likes them too and likely she will get them when I am done with them.

you can get this pattern yourself by crossing a Silver Duckwing pattern rooster with a red female if the red has a columbian markings (NH Red, RI Red, Buckeye, Red Rangers and others) ... I believe it works with Buff Columbian hens as well but I haven't tested that theory.

 

[BlueBaby]

I can send you hatching eggs if you want. No guarantee they are viable after the trip. Probably wait until it cools off before I can send them since they will be going from one hot area of the country to another. All the females have that pattern but the one in the middle just stands out more due to the angle the sun hit. A few of them (not in the picture) had a lighter version. There is also some red coloring which can't be seen in the picture. I plan to breed it out.
Those girls are getting rather large I might weigh one of them tonight just out of curiosity.
If you lived near by I would give one hen(or more) to you, I do not need all of them and after a couple of hatches I will not need any of them anymore because I will be breeding their offspring. A friend of mines wife really likes them too and likely she will get them when I am done with them.

you can get this pattern yourself by crossing a Silver Duckwing pattern rooster with a red female if the red has a columbian markings (NH Red, RI Red, Buckeye, Red Rangers and others) ... I believe it works with Buff Columbian hens as well but I haven't tested that theory.

Yes, it's pretty hot out here right now, and we are just entering the monsoon season. I think that the silkie hatching egg's came in from Florida just in time, so those are in my incubator right now and due to hatch on July 4th.

My Naked Neck hen is still broody, so I gave her 5 egg's from my flock that should hatch on June 24th.

 

[Morrigan]

I need to get some pictures of my NNs. They hatched from eggs from Dunlap Hatchery and are feathering in much prettier and more interesting patterns then I expected.

 

[Kris5902]

Looking good @Compost King! I have to say I’m still not a huge fan of the look of the naked necks, but they do look to be making some nice sized birds. So, I was in another thread and there was a lot of mention of a recessive dwarfism gene in CX and the Freedom Rangers, but not in the Red Rangers. I’m wondering if anyone had seen this crop up in their crosses.

From my understanding (most of which is based on “tomato plant genetics) for the recessive gene to be an issue, the animal would need two copies of it. I’m wondering if this would potentially be a f4 problem in my crosses? So I have the offspring of two birds, with only one parent bearing the recessive dwarf gene crossed back to a breed that doesn’t have one... by the time I hit an f4 hybrid do you think the recessive gene would become active and have an impact on growth? Does anyone have any experience with this in practical chicken terms?

 

[BlueBaby]

@Kris5902 I wouldn't know, but that is an interesting question. I hope that you can find out the answer to it!

 

[Compost King]

Looking good @Compost King! I have to say I’m still not a huge fan of the look of the naked necks, but they do look to be making some nice sized birds. So, I was in another thread and there was a lot of mention of a recessive dwarfism gene in CX and the Freedom Rangers, but not in the Red Rangers. I’m wondering if anyone had seen this crop up in their crosses.

From my understanding (most of which is based on “tomato plant genetics) for the recessive gene to be an issue, the animal would need two copies of it. I’m wondering if this would potentially be a f4 problem in my crosses? So I have the offspring of two birds, with only one parent bearing the recessive dwarf gene crossed back to a breed that doesn’t have one... by the time I hit an f4 hybrid do you think the recessive gene would become active and have an impact on growth? Does anyone have any experience with this in practical chicken terms?

I read posts about this elsewhere in here. I am not sure if its true or not but the people posting this stuff have no record of BSing us so I assume they are accurate. I wonder if these traits were put into these meat hybrids to keep us from breeding them so they can sell more of them. I also wonder if this was put in all the lines of CX. I am not sure exactly what dwarfism is but if can be spotted in chicks then we can cull them at hatch or just shift them from a meat program to an egg laying one. Or we can just process them like the larger meat birds... they will eat less so its not like they would be a burden. I guess I will find out in the future what dealing with this dwarfism gene means as I start experimenting with crossing other hybrids.

 

[Morrigan]

I got out with my camera today to get some pictures of this spring's hatch. First picture is of the lone Red Ranger chick with Mom. It's not a great picture, but I'm starting to get a rooster vibe out of this one.

Next is my second broody -- she has 5 chicken total, with 3 of them being Naked Necks. And last, a good close up of two of the NNs. I can't wait to see their adult feathering.