Cubalaya Thread For Sharing Pics and Discussing Our Birds

[4hmom]

some differences between the lines of bantams ours definatly are too big but just so you guys can see the type differences.
here is one of ours:

now here is a zook cock:

 

[Jungleexplorer]

Although birds are not generally weighed anymore, a good judge will still disqualify a grossly over or underweight bird. The deal with the weight is that the standard spells out an ideal weight, but allows a 20 percent range over and under that as acceptable. Any bird can vary based on condition, age, etc, so the weights were never meant to be exactly fixed. A 6 pound cock is IDEAL, but, anything within 4.8 up to 7.2 is acceptable and within the standard. There are general disqualifications that would apply to all breeds, like wry tail, duck footed, twisted feathers, split wing, etc. Then you have breed specific DQ's , for all breeds, anything other than correct eye, skin, comb, shanks, etc, is a DQ. So on a Cuba, yellow shanks, rose comb, and brown eyes would be a DQ. Cubalayas are all disqualified by having a tail above the horizontal, since the major characteristic of the breed is the unique tail!! Finally you have the variety specific DQ's, these mostly are about color. I think if I recall correctly, in the BB Reds and Blacks, any surface feather showing more than 1/2 inch of white disqualifies the bird.

No, there is no perfect Cubalaya!!! There are no perfect birds, period. The standard is an ideal to strive towards , and a way to define a breed, but no bird is ever perfect. If they aren't disqualified, then they match the standard and are considered fairly good representatives of the breed. There is also theoretically a point system to judge birds on breed by breed, although I am not sure how often that's used anymore. The picture you show is pretty good in terms of type. The reason drawings are used in the SOP instead of photographs is that there are no perfect birds to photograph! Remember that an illustration is one persons interpretation of the standard, I think we all have a little different idea of perfection in our minds eye.

Thank you Gallo. I am so relieved to know about the 20% + or - allowance on weight. I was thinking it had to be exact. I don't know if I will ever show personally, but I still want to improve my birds to the point of being show quality, but at the same time being genetically healthy (no fertility problems and such) and breeding consistently (very few culls). It's a tall order I know, but I think with time and patience I can do it if I focus only on BBReds.

 

[gallorojo]

Good looking bantams 4h Mom!! You can really see the difference in those 2 lines.

 

[4hmom]

thank you we did have a very good start from cat and jim zook though.

 

[saladin]

Although birds are not generally weighed anymore, a good judge will still disqualify a grossly over or underweight bird. The deal with the weight is that the standard spells out an ideal weight, but allows a 20 percent range over and under that as acceptable. Any bird can vary based on condition, age, etc, so the weights were never meant to be exactly fixed. A 6 pound cock is IDEAL, but, anything within 4.8 up to 7.2 is acceptable and within the standard. There are general disqualifications that would apply to all breeds, like wry tail, duck footed, twisted feathers, split wing, etc. Then you have breed specific DQ's , for all breeds, anything other than correct eye, skin, comb, shanks, etc, is a DQ. So on a Cuba, yellow shanks, rose comb, and brown eyes would be a DQ. Cubalayas are all disqualified by having a tail above the horizontal, since the major characteristic of the breed is the unique tail!! Finally you have the variety specific DQ's, these mostly are about color. I think if I recall correctly, in the BB Reds and Blacks, any surface feather showing more than 1/2 inch of white disqualifies the bird.

No, there is no perfect Cubalaya!!! There are no perfect birds, period. The standard is an ideal to strive towards , and a way to define a breed, but no bird is ever perfect. If they aren't disqualified, then they match the standard and are considered fairly good representatives of the breed. There is also theoretically a point system to judge birds on breed by breed, although I am not sure how often that's used anymore. The picture you show is pretty good in terms of type. The reason drawings are used in the SOP instead of photographs is that there are no perfect birds to photograph! Remember that an illustration is one persons interpretation of the standard, I think we all have a little different idea of perfection in our minds eye.

Jungle and others,
When reading the Standard you must also ask, 'What does not disqualify?' This is as important a question as 'What does disqualify?'

For example, most females show hackle stripping. This is never mentioned in the Standard. Thus, it is allowed. This is also the reason that Schmudde could win with his incorrect colored BBR's. And the reason Mr Finch could show stippled females instead of wheaten females (stippled being the correct coloration for BBR and wheaten being called BBR in the Cubalaya Standard..... it can all get rather confusing).

But, if you have any black on the face of a Black Cubalaya no matter how perfect in type the bird should be DQ because it specifically states as much in the Standard.

So, we have hackle stripping in most all females. Strains with hackle stripping in the males (Castignetti). Strains that throw stippled females (Finch). Strains that throw marron colored males (Schmudde); and much much more.

 

[troyer]

This cubalaya cockerel (Sandhill line) needs a new home, he is pearl eyed and single spurred. Early in the season he was not fertile but I have hatched several eggs from him recently. If you are willing to take the risk of him possibly not being very fertile, that's fine, you need only pay the shipping and box. I take postal checks only, unless you pick him up locally. May 2012 hatched.

 

[4hmom]

nice cockerl how tall is he and how much does he weigh?
how much is he im looking to expand into standards also

 

[gallorojo]

Excellent additional comments regarding the standard, Saladin, thanks!!

Here is a picture from this week of the father to the blue project youngsters I posted earlier. He's a Zook bird, he looks a bit pale because he's spent all spring in the barn in a breeding pen.

 

[troyer]

Nice bird gallorojo!!

 

[4hmom]

nice cock!