Cubalaya Thread For Sharing Pics and Discussing Our Birds

[troyer]

Those black ones really look like Sumatras

Based on what the breeder says that I got part of the black line from they have zero Sumatra in them. I do agree though that the head seems to resemble Sumatra a bit. He is 5 1/2 months old.

I like the looks of Cubalayas. I may get some, or create a chicken variety with same characteristics.

The lobster tail is almost impossible to get if you don't already have it. It's even difficult to keep if you don't continually keep after it.

Not really hard for the tail. My black Sumatra, & Malays have the Lobster/Shrimp tail trait.

I wonder if cackle has some, I know that Ideal does.

Sumatra tails are not like Cubalaya tails, from the side it kinda looks like it, but in formation they are not alike at all. The Sumatra tail is vertically wide, the Cubalaya tail is horizontally wide. The Malays do have the shrimp tails and could be a good breed to use, but it'll take a minimum of 5-7 years to get a good lobster tail unless you are willing to hatch 100+ a year and select from those. It is nearly impossible to do it quicker with low hatch rates but you might get it done by chance. After the first generation you can no longer use the Sumatra as that would be going in the wrong direction of a horizontally wide tail.

Cubalaya tails are similar but different than the Sumatras. Like wider and kinda shaped different if that makes sense. I think I read that they did use Sumatras to make them though. I was gonna cross mine to my Sumatra hen but decided against it. Check out that sandhill preservation site though if you hadn't. Bunch of interesting birds and all kinds of cool/rare seeds if you keep a garden.

You are right. Sumatra are also different enough structurally that it makes it difficult to get back to the Cubalaya body structure. It takes lot of hatching and selecting to get the Cubalaya traits.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Cubalaya tails are similar but different than the Sumatras. Like wider and kinda shaped different if that makes sense. I think I read that they did use Sumatras to make them though. I was gonna cross mine to my Sumatra hen but decided against it. Check out that sandhill preservation site though if you hadn't. Bunch of interesting birds and all kinds of cool/rare seeds if you keep a garden.

My Sumatra rooster has a pretty wide tail, & same with my Malay pullets.
I can get a better picture of my Sumatra rooster's tail tomorrow.
He's molted, & it's alot better then what it was in this picture.

Demon's tail pictures.

A couple of my Malay pullets.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Based on what the breeder says that I got part of the black line from they have zero Sumatra in them. I do agree though that the head seems to resemble Sumatra a bit. He is 5 1/2 months old.

The lobster tail is almost impossible to get if you don't already have it. It's even difficult to keep if you don't continually keep after it.

Sumatra tails are not like Cubalaya tails, from the side it kinda looks like it, but in formation they are not alike at all. The Sumatra tail is vertically wide, the Cubalaya tail is horizontally wide. The Malays do have the shrimp tails and could be a good breed to use, but it'll take a minimum of 5-7 years to get a good lobster tail unless you are willing to hatch 100+ a year and select from those. It is nearly impossible to do it quicker with low hatch rates but you might get it done by chance. After the first generation you can no longer use the Sumatra as that would be going in the wrong direction of a horizontally wide tail.

You are right. Sumatra are also different enough structurally that it makes it difficult to get back to the Cubalaya body structure. It takes lot of hatching and selecting to get the Cubalaya traits.

I don't think it would really be that difficult to replicate. The issue I see is the skin color, which the Cubalaya has white, which Malay, & Sumatra don't have.

I think this would be a neat attempt, to try one day.

I'll get a top view of my Sumatra Rooster's tail tomorrow. Won't be that hard to grab him, he always wants to beat me up.

 

[troyer]

My Sumatra rooster has a pretty wide tail, & same with my Malay pullets.
I can get a better picture of my Sumatra rooster's tail tomorrow.
He's molted, & it's alot better then what it was in this picture.View attachment 2941520
Demon's tail pictures.View attachment 2942414View attachment 2942415View attachment 2942416View attachment 2942417

A couple of my Malay pulleView attachment 2941523View attachment 2941524View attachment 2941526

Get a picture of the Sumatra on the ground, standing at attention.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Get a picture of the Sumatra on the ground, standing at attention.

Hard to do, especially when it's me. He comes right to the fence. I'll try though.

 

[Chiduckn]

Cubalaya tail and shape pics

 

[Chiduckn]

Can't forget about that bubble face look they got goin on too lol

 

[troyer]

Great type on that white cockerel!

 

[Chiduckn]

Great type on that white cockerel!

Thanks... I didn't make it so though. I'm just getting started. @cubalaya knows what he's doing .

 

[troyer]

Here is a picture of what they should really look like, width of tail. I don't have this one anymore, but I do have a daughter.