Cubalaya Thread For Sharing Pics and Discussing Our Birds

[troyer]

Yeah Zach, that is a very interesting color!

 

[cubakid]

Oh, Zach, that is awesome!! I love it!! My opinion has always been that the Pumpkin Hulseys with the dun looking tails had dun in them, seemed obvious to me. Your results with this cross confirm that dun is there. Sweet.

I'll warn you that they are not all the same. I'll try to find/get a picture of a dun and a regular pumpkin tail. The brown and dun are two seperate colors and the females seem to show it pretty well. Only one of the original hens had it so we had about half come out with it. Yes it can be dun but only 50% chance unless you bred from birds you know carry it. This bird has a brother that came out with a regular brown(pumpkin) tail. The brown in thier tail(mostly sickles) is covering much like color in the breast on the dun male picture, but all over the tail.

 

[gallorojo]

Yep, I realize they are highly variable and some don't have dun, but, clearly, some do, and that's what's counts for me. I had been told several times before here and elsewhere that they do not have dun. I have always thought that some did, which, based on your results, is correct..

 

[aviangems]

Cubakid,

You just have to work harder on your birds so that they can be up to par to beat the other orientals.

BBRed Cock

BBRed Hen 1

BBred Hen 2

White Cockerel

Sorry Black Pullet

The cock bird has decent weight( not going to guess) but hackle color is a struggle. His is dark and he grew little black flecks here and there. I also wish he was a little taller(more leg and thigh length). The hens are a strange color this year, the came back light and splotchy. The one hen is standing weird. The white cockerel is going to be my sole white breeder, I am set back by losing my second best male(still have #3) and my best black pullet and my best white pullet. So my birds should be fine for breeding after survival of the fittest has taken its course. I am weeding out the weak, even if they would have been my primary breeder choice. The black pictured is a sorry bird. She lacks breed type, but I'm limited with the blacks. My cubalayas never win anyways here with these darn Chung and Tune and Bundy Shamo/Asil, and all the Sumatras that are increasing in popularity.

I asked Terry Britts old partner who judged here what happened to Terry's birds and he hasn't the slightest idea. But he did know that they were from Sam and a couple hens came from the SW( Arizona I believe). This is where all of my size came from, so primarily Sam. I wish I could find the rest of Terry's birds because they were silhouettes of Sams. He's judging here at the ABA national so I'll ask him. Sam actually wanted to know too, because e says he needs a fertility boost on his old birds, so maybe I can or Jim Sallee can find where they went.

 

[Jungleexplorer]

My Welp chicks are 8 weeks and 4 days old today. They are fully feathered and look healthy. I am wondering if it would be okay to move them out of the heated brooder into an outside pen. It is going to be a little milder this week, with lows between 32 to 35 degrees. Normally I would have moved them to the pen weeks ago but I have never raised chick in the winter, so I don't usually have to worry about it getting too cold.

 

[Jungleexplorer]

Well, I have run out of pens. I need space to move my Welp chicks out of the brooder too, so something has got to go. Guess it is going to be my last two remaining Ideal cockerels. Not planning on doing anything with them anyways (since I got the Zook Birds to work with), so it is out into the general population they go. Was hoping to wait until spring, but oh well. I hope they are able to make it living with a bunch of AGs. Here are some pics of them.

 

[gallorojo]

Jungle,
I think your chicks will be fine at this age to go out. I typically move mine out anywhere between 3 and 6 weeks old, depending on breed, species, weather, etc.. I think you live in Texas, yes? You should be fine.

I would guess that short of being eaten, your cockerels will do fine. This breed tends to be fairly hardy and adaptable. I actually think they are not that bad, not excellent, but not horrible either. They do seem small though.

Good luck!!

 

[troyer]

Those two cockerels look very similar to the ones I had gotten from Ideal 5 years ago, actually they look like the same ones I had!

 

[Jungleexplorer]

Jungle,
I think your chicks will be fine at this age to go out. I typically move mine out anywhere between 3 and 6 weeks old, depending on breed, species, weather, etc.. I think you live in Texas, yes? You should be fine.

I would guess that short of being eaten, your cockerels will do fine. This breed tends to be fairly hardy and adaptable. I actually think they are not that bad, not excellent, but not horrible either. They do seem small though.

Good luck!!

Thanks Gallo. Actually, the two cockerels are 7 months old and are the only two birds left out of the 14 chicks I got from Ideal. All the rest died from S.I.C.D.S (Sudden Inexplicable Chicken Death Syndrome), except for two that were killed by an owl. The pictures are mostly of the best one of the two. Since I don't have any of the Ideal pullets to breed them with and I think breeding them with my Zook bird would be a bad idea, I guess I will just keep them around for looks. Not sure what to call their coloring though. I think Ideal calls this coloring Blue Red.

 

[Jungleexplorer]

Those two cockerels look very similar to the ones I had gotten from Ideal 5 years ago, actually they look like the same ones I had!

Didn't you post some pictures a while back? It was you or somebody else. I said the same thing, " Those look just like my Ideal birds". They are pretty. I wish some of the pullets would have survived so I could have something to breed them with. They don't look anything like any picture of a real Cubalaya I have ever seen, so I have no idea what was mixed in to get this coloring.