I want to get an incubator to hatch a variety of eggs from quails to geese eggs. I want something that is going to be reliable. I have heard bad things about Styrofoam incubators and I used to have a LG that didn't work well. I'd like to get a small incubator that takes care of a lot of the work. I want to buy the Brinsea 20 Eco Manual. I know the Mini Advanced would do the job but I don't want to rule out goose eggs. I'd love the 20 Eco but can't afford the auto turner. I wouldn't mind turning it to the side a couple times a day myself though. Will not having the auto turner make a big difference if I'm reliable with the manual turning? I guess what I want to hear is peoples personal experiences with it as a manual. I want to make sure it's legit and I'm not going to be frustrated or disappointed, Also I read that it doesn't come with a hydrometer. What's the best kind for a good price? I have a thermometer/hydrometer from walmart but I don't know if it's a good one.