desperately seeking Pyncheons

[sandiklaws]

I have a tiny group of these wonderful birds and need to find birds with the correct willow (carrying both slate and yellow leg genes) legs to work my guys back towards the correct SOP. Any help will be greatly appreciated. I would consider any smooth leg bantam rooster with willow legs at this point as I am at a complete dead end.

 

[sandiklaws]

 

[gootziecat]

Sandi, the only person I know of that raises pyncheons is Pyncheon Guy. Hinkjc use to raise them, but evidently no longer. They might be a contact to someone who does. You're pretty sharp, so you probably are way ahead of me. Good luck!

 

[Fowl Mouth]

Few months late in my reply, but Welp Hatchery has them for sale, but I would imagine they are far from the SOP... however, some hatchery stock can surprise you. I have yet to order anything from Welp, so your guess is as good as mine as to leg color and type.

 

[paris_r]

here is a sample of Welp stock. 4 of the 10 were crestless and the supplier to the hatchery said it was normal for their stock. I cannot tell if their legs are yellow or white on all of them, but none are willow.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/563451/pyncheon-thread/60#post_13578047

why are these birds not on the ALBC list???

 

[Dovemaiden]

Very late reply but how is your breeding program progressing?
I've worked with these a long time now, and the problems with Pyncheons and the SOP go beyond just shank color.
You've probably noticed that.
They are very hard to find.

If you are breeding them and intend to just address shank color to start, there is no shame in using yellow-legged birds to initially outcross.

The white shank alleles the modern Pyncheons display is incorrect, and unfortunately a dominant gene.

To address the problem, use a first-gen cross with a yellow-legged bantam.

Also, I would highly recommend you use a red-ginger male that is yellow-shanked for your initial cross to correct ground-color on the Mille Fleur pattern.

It is difficult to find the red-gingers, but they are out there.

 

[Dovemaiden]

I posted a photo on the other thread about the bay ground color for the Mille Fleur pattern. I'll try to post a couple more photos, if it helps.