Devil chicks?

[EggSighted4Life]

There's a chance this "devil" chick is a cockerel. Often, a rambunctious chick will turn out to be a feisty roo.

Hmm.... now you're thinking!

 

[seashoreduck]

There's a chance this "devil" chick is a cockerel. Often, a rambunctious chick will turn out to be a feisty roo.

Nooooo

the hatchery has a 98% rate of being correct. Please tell me I can't be that unlucky.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Nooooo

the hatchery has a 98% rate of being correct. Please tell me I can't be that unlucky.

2 out of 2 of my GLW were boys. And one has a straight comb. But in all the years I've been doing chicks, maybe 5 years... that's the only time I ever got boys, though some had me worried.

Yesterday participated in a thread where 2 out 4 alleged pullets were cockerels and 1 of the 4 was completely the wrong breed. I haven't seen a hatchery claiming 98%... 90 and 95% usually. But mix ups do happen... sometimes at the feed store.

That doesn't mean it truly is a boy, just that it is a possibility. My feisty boys are always feisty to their brood mates. SO far it's actually my girls who have the desire to roam. And my property has many fences... so a girl was pacing a fence wanting to the other side. So I lifted it and she started pacing to get back where she just came from. My goats will come around and stick their head through the fence to eat where they just came from. I don't know why... but the grass does seem to be greener on the other side, no matter which side it is!

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Oh, and the boys often seem to be confident and not run away from your hand.

And no, the chick did NOT imprint on somebody else already. Other than other chicks maybe.

 

[seashoreduck]

2 out of 2 of my GLW were boys. And one has a straight comb. But in all the years I've been doing chicks, maybe 5 years... that's the only time I ever got boys, though some had me worried.

Yesterday participated in a thread where 2 out 4 alleged pullets were cockerels and 1 of the 4 was completely the wrong breed. I haven't seen a hatchery claiming 98%... 90 and 95% usually. But mix ups do happen... sometimes at the feed store.

That doesn't mean it truly is a boy, just that it is a possibility. My feisty boys are always feisty to their brood mates. SO far it's actually my girls who have the desire to roam. And my property has many fences... so a girl was pacing a fence wanting to the other side. So I lifted it and she started pacing to get back where she just came from. My goats will come around and stick their head through the fence to eat where they just came from. I don't know why... but the grass does seem to be greener on the other side, no matter which side it is!

The hatchery claims 95%. The grain store makes no guarantees but said that they've experienced a complaints rate of 2 in 100. Given these birds stay local and you're bound to hear about it, I trust them. They never order Straight runs of the same birds they order only females of.

She defiantly has the desire to roam!

Oh, and the boys often seem to be confident and not run away from your hand.

And no, the chick did NOT imprint on somebody else already. Other than other chicks maybe.

Actually, both of them like a good cuddle and are people friendly.

 

[seashoreduck]

Follow up:

Since clearing what may have been pasty butt this morning the PR has settled down completely. She has now turned into a guard dog of sorts and runs interference between the cage wall and the feisty RIR.

Given the chance the RIR still wants to escape. She just does.

I've added a couple sticks, a few leaves, a pine branch, a large rock (that's rough and has dirt) and a few acorns. I've hand-fed them some meal worms. The PR really loves the pine branch.

Temp is still reading around 93 on the warm side to 70 on the cool side. They have probiotic water alternated with electrolyte water, plain water, and medicated feed.

They are a bit sleepier this afternoon, which is nice. Mostly I think that the RIR has worn herself out.

I can't go out today to get the other chicks, but I will see what they are up to tomorrow and make a final decision then

 

[EggSighted4Life]

The hatchery claims 95%. The grain store makes no guarantees but said that they've experienced a complaints rate of 2 in 100. Given these birds stay local and you're bound to hear about it, I trust them. They never order Straight runs of the same birds they order only females of.

She defiantly has the desire to roam!

Actually, both of them like a good cuddle and are people friendly.

Just in case you miss understood what I meant... one of my GLW has a straight comb, wasn't straight run. They should have a rose comb.

Come to think of it... we have 2 LFS. And my one with the straight comb came from a different store than my SL and GLW that both ended up boys in the pullet bin on my second go around.

I don't think they use the same exact hatcheries... but not sure. And I picked them out of like 50! Should have contacted the store to see if they had any complaints... but we just ate them since that's what we do with most other boys. That isn't an option for most folks though. And I know feed stores usually do try to get all pullets as it serves their customers well.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Follow up:

Since clearing what may have been pasty butt this morning the PR has settled down completely. She has now turned into a guard dog of sorts and runs interference between the cage wall and the feisty RIR.

Given the chance the RIR still wants to escape. She just does.

I've added a couple sticks, a few leaves, a pine branch, a large rock (that's rough and has dirt) and a few acorns. I've hand-fed them some meal worms. The PR really loves the pine branch.

Temp is still reading around 93 on the warm side to 70 on the cool side. They have probiotic water alternated with electrolyte water, plain water, and medicated feed.

They are a bit sleepier this afternoon, which is nice. Mostly I think that the RIR has worn herself out.

I can't go out today to get the other chicks, but I will see what they are up to tomorrow and make a final decision then

Sounds good.... except... well, I was gonna say they need grit to digest meal worms. The feed doesn't need it though. But if you have sand/ dirt in there that should be good enough.

A good first treat is boiled smashed egg as well. Live meal worms are more nutritious. But make sure to limit treats as it can diminish valuable nutrients from not eating their regular feed. Not more than 5-10% of their total ration should be fed in treats.

I'm sure they will be much calmer once settled in.

 

[seashoreduck]

Sounds good.... except... well, I was gonna say they need grit to digest meal worms. The feed doesn't need it though. But if you have sand/ dirt in there that should be good enough.

A good first treat is boiled smashed egg as well. Live meal worms are more nutritious. But make sure to limit treats as it can diminish valuable nutrients from not eating their regular feed. Not more than 5-10% of their total ration should be fed in treats.

I'm sure they will be much calmer once settled in.

They have some dirt. And I've hand-fed the mealworms...so they've had maybe 3? between the both of them. I did give them a bit of cucumber to peck at for interest.

I also have come into an interesting scenerio.

Is it possible they think the baby is part of their flock? I took them out for an afternoon play time and plunked the baby down. She's 8mo and not yet mobile. They get close, but not too close. The RIR didn't even try to run once. Baby would get excited and flap her arms, and both would make crazy circles and flap around. The louder she "talked" the louder they cheeped. When I had to put them away the baby let me know I'd made a mistake and lost her mind....and so did the PR.

They are getting drinks and playing now. Baby needs a nap....but the RIR is fired up again, ready to run.

So...do they think the baby is part of their flock? If so will getting 2 more solve that...or are they bonded to her?

Other times RIR's escaped or had wanderlust, baby was no where to be seen (napping/bed)

 

[EggSighted4Life]

They have some dirt. And I've hand-fed the mealworms...so they've had maybe 3? between the both of them. I did give them a bit of cucumber to peck at for interest.

I also have come into an interesting scenerio.

Is it possible they think the baby is part of their flock? I took them out for an afternoon play time and plunked the baby down. She's 8mo and not yet mobile. They get close, but not too close. The RIR didn't even try to run once. Baby would get excited and flap her arms, and both would make crazy circles and flap around. The louder she "talked" the louder they cheeped. When I had to put them away the baby let me know I'd made a mistake and lost her mind....and so did the PR.

They are getting drinks and playing now. Baby needs a nap....but the RIR is fired up again, ready to run.

So...do they think the baby is part of their flock? If so will getting 2 more solve that...or are they bonded to her?

Other times RIR's escaped or had wanderlust, baby was no where to be seen (napping/bed)

No, your giving the flock association to much credit. It's just a chick. Getting more chicks may or may not help that one. In my experience it helped my upset chick to calm down and enjoy the group. But wanderlust is a whole other thing, IMO.... though it might not be so worried about getting out anymore if it has a few friends to console it instead of maybe only the sleepy or distracted one.

(I'm just making up things the single chick might be doing instead of what that one wants it to)

In all groups one may be the big adventurer. I have a large flock 40-50. One of my birds (EE) insists on inspecting every inch of my acre and some of my neighbors to. And like I said, monkey see monkey do. Someone has to lead the way to adventure. If your weather is decent (sunny and not windy) you could take them to the real outside for a few minutes. Earlier in their life is best.

But that wanderer girl has curtailed her adventures to my own property shortly after she started laying. I didn't clip wings to keep them on this side of my 4 foot fence, because it wasn't a real concern for me. When they do go over it is usually where there is a solid gate to land on instead of my stock yard type fencing.

Beings they are flock animals.... more chicks is better .... I guess is my final thought. Won't be long before it isn't really safe to have the babe like that. Chickens LOVE to peck shiny things like eyeballs. And it really isn't something you can train out. They peck at lint and whatever else they can get their lips on.... when they are little no big deal. But it hurts when they get bigger. A couple of my girls are gentile though.

One thing that won't help you or the chicks is if the toddler rules the roost!

So don't give into her lost little mind, I'm sure she'll find in her sweet little dreams.

Like with anything else though.... what work for one person at one place might not work for another in another location. And ultimately you have to do what you think will work for YOU!

Now go get some chicks and don't listen to what people say about chicken math!

Just kidding really though.