Deworming and de-miting questions

[casportpony]

This is the only other info I can find:
From: http://www.harrisonsbirdfoods.com/avmed/cam/09_therapeutic_agents.pdf

 

[Michael Apple]

What is the proper dose in mg/kg?

I measure Valbazen drench in volume measurements of cc/ml. I used common 1/2 cc for standard/larger breeds. I use Wormazole liquid at 1 drop per pound for my Bantams since label calls for 6 drops for a 4-6 lb chicken. The capsules are too large for Bantams or smaller standards, but I use them also on larger birds. Directions call for one capsule for a 3-6 pound chicken. Wormazole is labeled as a Benzimidazole class of anthelmintic product. I always preferred Wormazole over other wormers since it has a wide safety margin and eliminates round,cecal, tape,gape, hair, and capillary worms. Accidentally dosing a chicken with too much won't harm them. I know because I've done it. I prefer using the broadest spectrum wormer for chickens. I am always open to suggestions though.

 

[casportpony]

What I am looking for is the number of milligrams one should give a 1 kilogram bird (mg/kg), but no one seems to be able to provide that information. What if one had a 100 gram chick that needed to be dewormed, how much would should it get?

 

[Michael Apple]

What I am looking for is the number of milligrams one should give a 1 kilogram bird (mg/kg), but no one seems to be able to provide that information. What if one had a 100 gram chick that needed to be dewormed, how much would should it get?

I don't know too many people who use the metric system of kilograms in America. I certainly don't. It would depend on the type of wormer. It would be best to contact the manufacturer. Most folks brood chicks in house that I know, so they don't run the risk of getting worms until they are out on range. I've never wormed a standard breed chicken under 3 months of age. By that time a Bantam sized dose is adequate.

 

[ten chicks]

I'm from Canada,we use metric,1000 milligrams = 1 gram, 1000 grams = 1 kilogram, 1 kilogram = 2.2 pounds, 1 oz = 28.35 grams. What are the instructions for dosage?

 

[dawg53]

Since we live in the United States, standard weights and measurements are the norm rather than the exception, despite attempts to convert to the metric system....I dont see that happening any time soon. Just for those folks who use the metric system for weights and measurements, here's test results regarding the effectiveness of albendazole on poultry using the metric system. A second dosing at the 10th day ensures 100% worm killing effectiveness. Dosage for standard size birds is 1/2cc/ml given orally, 1/4cc/ml for smaller birds and birds should be redosed again in 10 days. Hands down, albendazole is the best wormer and one of the safest wormers on the market for poultry.
http://japr.fass.org/content/16/3/392.full.

 

[showbarnmom]

I'm from Canada,we use metric,1000 milligrams = 1 gram, 1000 grams = 1 kilogram, 1 kilogram = 2.2 pounds, 1 oz = 28.35 grams. What are the instructions for dosage? 

Dosage would still be in milliliter . So 1/2 mL for a standard size bird. One ml=one CC.

In vet medicine 90%, at least, of dosages are figured based on mg per kg. next most common is mg per lb. then there is the wonderful math of converting that to mg per ml, then ml to ounce or teaspoon.

 

[casportpony]

Since we live in the United States, standard weights and measurements are the norm rather than the exception, despite attempts to convert to the metric system....I dont see that happening any time soon. Just for those folks who use the metric system for weights and measurements, here's test results regarding the effectiveness of albendazole on poultry using the metric system. A second dosing at the 10th day ensures 100% worm killing effectiveness. Dosage for standard size birds is 1/2cc/ml given orally, 1/4cc/ml for smaller birds and birds should be redosed again in 10 days. Hands down, albendazole is the best wormer and one of the safest wormers on the market for poultry.
http://japr.fass.org/content/16/3/392.full.

Okay, so based on that *one* study, the most effective dose was 20mg per kilogram (2.2 pounds).

 

[casportpony]

I don't know too many people who use the metric system of kilograms in America. I certainly don't.
I think you'll find that most veterinarians, doctors, hospitals and pharmacies use it and *all* medications that we buy are labeled in milligrams (please correct me if I'm wrong).

It would depend on the type of wormer.
Yes, but I am asking about Albendazole. What is the dose in mg per kg or mg per pounds?

It would be best to contact the manufacturer.
Maybe I'll do that, should be interesting to hear what they have to say, but I think they're going to say that they can't recommend off label dosing.

Most folks brood chicks in house that I know, so they don't run the risk of getting worms until they are out on range.
Most folks? I doubt it.

I've never wormed a standard breed chicken under 3 months of age. By that time a Bantam sized dose is adequate.
So how much would you give to a 250 gram (9 ounce) bantam?

I'm not try to convert people to the metric system, I just want to know the dosing info in milligrams to either kilograms or pounds, which no one seems to be able to answer.

 

[casportpony]

I'm from Canada,we use metric,1000 milligrams = 1 gram, 1000 grams = 1 kilogram, 1 kilogram = 2.2 pounds, 1 oz = 28.35 grams. What are the instructions for dosage?

That is what I'm after, but all people keep saying is 1/2 a cc for this and 1/4 a cc for that, which is *not* dosing info, IMHO. Here are some sample weights of the poultry that I worm on a regular basis:

100 gram chicks
250 gram bantams
500 gram bantams
750 gram bantams
1kg gram bantams and standards
1kg - 4kg standards and Guineas
4kg - 6kg ducks
4kg - 15kg turkeys
3kg - 6.8kg peafowl

The 1/4cc and 1/2cc method does not make sense...