Diary & Notes ~ Air Cell Detatched SHIPPED Chicken Eggs for incubation and hatching

[Sally Sunshine]

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[cochins1088]

Just stopping by to say hi quick, I'll try and catch up when I'm more with it. I've been sick since Friday and I'm absolutely exhausted. I can't concentrate on anything long enough to make sense at the moment.

(Just to let you know how serious this is, I just turned down a bowl of ice cream lol. I honestly did.)

No ice cream? Yikes, this is serious...

I hope that you feel better soon Sumi.

 

[sumi]

Thanks, I'm a bit better, I think. Very tired still, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised after barely eating for 3 days. I had a snack this morning and I feel o.k. so far, so I'm going to go check if those animals left me any ice cream

How and what are you all doing?

Sally, I spotted some very nice looking WFS when I glanced at the thread sometime over the weekend. You still working with them?

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Thanks, I'm a bit better, I think. Very tired still, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised after barely eating for 3 days. I had a snack this morning and I feel o.k. so far, so I'm going to go check if those animals left me any ice cream

How and what are you all doing?

Sally, I spotted some very nice looking WFS when I glanced at the thread sometime over the weekend. You still working with them?

yes mam, I have some new girls from great stock growing out too. They will soon go hang with the others, I guess the floppy comb girl has to go along with Harmony's black polish. Any takers close by? lol I am thinking about a bigger coop for them, skids of course sorta like the duck pen. I am worried about not being able to add a little heat if it dips really low this winter, huge combs mean frostbite that wouldnt be good. The dog house has no room for heat of any kind. : (

So glad your better, must been really terrible bug! Is the boy ok?

 

[sumi]

He's fine, busy-busy as always. I wish I had his energy, especially at the moment!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

NPIP testing and molting birds, letting them out this morning made me question if I should wait till after this molt? I dont think it would make a difference but just checking!

 

[rbaker0345]

i guess i must have annoyed you but honestly i feel no animosity towards you. i was just trying to be as clear as i could be to people who may read the comments with lesser understanding. it may come off condacending, sorry

i like to read your opinions and gain knowledge from not only you but others here. sometimes that can only be gleaned through debate and discussion.

Seeing others' list is great. I am a great list maker lol

Cheers

And as far as family goes, they are great. No probs. I did get a text that 2 6 week old chicks are dead without visible symptoms just now. I isolated the batch and started them on di-methox for 3 days.

No, no- you didn't annoy me at all. I felt like I annoyed you by jumping into someone else's list. Here I was being a little cheeky while there was this huge hurricane hurling toward your family and farm and I hadn't watched or read the news in weeks, so I was completely ignorant.

Human and avian medicine are so different from each other. Benzos for example, an adult human takes like 1mg of Diazepam for mood alteration and 10mg for pre-med. An 18mo old chicken requires about 300mg for pre-med! I worry about aspergillosis because I have asthma and I live in a swamp, so respiratory illness is formost in my mind and (stupid google) I read on pubmed that about 70% of hatchery turkeys are actually chronically infected with aspergillus but never show symptoms. This is the problem with the information about poultry medicine on the internet: it is all geared toward large-scale, commercial operations. My poultry vet is also a Commercial poultry vet, so she only has that commercial outlook on things. A lot of what she has me treat for uses off-label drugs because everything useful is off-label for poultry.

I am VERY conscious of drug resistance. I have my undergrad degree in micro/mollecular bio. But while this makes me a little paranoid about resistance, I also know that bacteria only retain the plastid for resistance for about 6 weeks. So, if you encounter resistance in a patient, you only need to remove the stimulus (the antibiotic) for 6 weeks and the resistance will be lost in the majority of the bacterial population. Unfortunately, not so true in highter forms of life like protists and fungi.

Thank you for the advice about amphoteracin versus nystatin. I have only ever used nystatin or miconazonle for fungus and amphoteracin seemed a bit harsh to me, but that's what I could find as treatment for aspergillosis in humans not chickens.

Every vet I have ever worked for has always had a nebulizer and nebulizer chamber at the ready. Rats and other small animals with chronic mycoplasma can be nebulized with albuterol to prolong quality of life. It also helps to have one for kitten season because the newborns are so small that oral meds are dangerous. Nebulizers are good for chickens because some drugs have a hard time being absorbed through the plasma membrane in the GI tract, so getting the abx directly to the respiratory tract can be more beneficial.

 

[loveourbirds]

NPIP testing and molting birds, letting them out this morning made me question if I should wait till after this molt? I dont think it would make a difference but just checking!

its a little more stress, but i dont think it should be an issue for you. i had ran lights for heat all winter and when we turned them off some birds started to molt - and were in molt during the test. i did give some vitamins and electrolytes solution after the test, it was really hot that day. i figured it would be a good idea.

 

[rbaker0345]

Don't worry about NPIP, its no big deal. Each bird is handled for like less than a minute. Deep Breaths, Out with stress, In with love...... Everything is going to be allright. It will be quick and everything will be cool. Foosah.

 

[ozexpat]

No, no- you didn't annoy me at all. I felt like I annoyed you by jumping into someone else's list. Here I was being a little cheeky while there was this huge hurricane hurling toward your family and farm and I hadn't watched or read the news in weeks, so I was completely ignorant.

Human and avian medicine are so different from each other. Benzos for example, an adult human takes like 1mg of Diazepam for mood alteration and 10mg for pre-med. An 18mo old chicken requires about 300mg for pre-med! I worry about aspergillosis because I have asthma and I live in a swamp, so respiratory illness is formost in my mind and (stupid google) I read on pubmed that about 70% of hatchery turkeys are actually chronically infected with aspergillus but never show symptoms. This is the problem with the information about poultry medicine on the internet: it is all geared toward large-scale, commercial operations. My poultry vet is also a Commercial poultry vet, so she only has that commercial outlook on things. A lot of what she has me treat for uses off-label drugs because everything useful is off-label for poultry.

I am VERY conscious of drug resistance. I have my undergrad degree in micro/mollecular bio. But while this makes me a little paranoid about resistance, I also know that bacteria only retain the plastid for resistance for about 6 weeks. So, if you encounter resistance in a patient, you only need to remove the stimulus (the antibiotic) for 6 weeks and the resistance will be lost in the majority of the bacterial population. Unfortunately, not so true in highter forms of life like protists and fungi.

Thank you for the advice about amphoteracin versus nystatin. I have only ever used nystatin or miconazonle for fungus and amphoteracin seemed a bit harsh to me, but that's what I could find as treatment for aspergillosis in humans not chickens.

Every vet I have ever worked for has always had a nebulizer and nebulizer chamber at the ready. Rats and other small animals with chronic mycoplasma can be nebulized with albuterol to prolong quality of life. It also helps to have one for kitten season because the newborns are so small that oral meds are dangerous. Nebulizers are good for chickens because some drugs have a hard time being absorbed through the plasma membrane in the GI tract, so getting the abx directly to the respiratory tract can be more beneficial.

I need to hang around vets more