Diary & Notes ~ Air Cell Detatched SHIPPED Chicken Eggs for incubation and hatching

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: OMGooness!! I have never had to deal with this issue, I am so sorry your going through it. and bubble eye sockets!! emegawd this is not good! I pray someone can help! Start a thread in the Emergency section, perhaps others HAVE experienced this issue! aweeee so sorry

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: OH NO!!!!!!!

 

[subhanalah]

Filled the incubator with water this morming, towards the end of the 18th day. Hope I didn't wait too long!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Hi CraftyChicky!! how far had the eggs traveled? how were they packaged? double boxed, bubble wrap? how large were the air cells when you got them? and mobile being rolling end to end or displaced wiggly a tad with saddle shapes?

What incubator are you using? fan or no fan? Thermos are calibrated and spot on? and hygros as well? your using humidity as a tool not as a set number? are you weighing or keeping a close eye on air cells? Turner or no turner?

Praying for your guys to make it through! Hi Sally, thanks for your interest in my hatch. Above I have copied and pasted your post, not sure if it's right! But here goes my answers :
My eggs traveled from mid Fl to me, mid Ga. All of the air cells were of average size, only one was saddled, but all were rolling with each turn of the egg. I didn't move them too much, didn't want to make the situation any worse. They were shipped to me in egg cartons with shredded paper inside the cartons, and inside the box which held the cartons. ...was not real happy about that. The eggs were not cheap! So, I let them sit for 48 hrs, hoping they might reattach a little bit, then set them on the 15th. I have them starting in a hovabater still air with 2 small water dishes inside, temps have been stable at 100-101 with a calibrated thermometer at mid egg height. I don't have a hygrometer...I know I need to get one. I will candle at day 10, and compare air cells then. I have been tilting the bator 2-3 x/day manually for turning. I hope to move them into my Brinsea as soon as the current chicks in the Brinsea hatch... Should be able to move them in by day 10-11. I am mainly concerned about the viability of eggs with detached air cells, and their hatchability. I have a friend whose husband has a poultry science degree, he said to not even bother trying to hatch them. But, I wanted to give it a try.

Whatcha think?

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fl to ga isnt that far really. rolling is not good at all. did you get a pic of the size of air cells at start? were they a dime nickle quarter or bigger?

I must admit if I have a rolling air cell at this point I trash the egg immediately and have done just this with harmonyAnns silkie eggs she won.
I dont think its worth the stress and RARELY do they hatch, I dont think I have hatched a rolling one yet. Displaced and wiggly YES they hatch!

You must be careful in reading other peoples information, some ppl will post rolling as a loose air cell, and swear they can hatch them. a rolling cell means the air bubble in the egg goes from one end all the way to the other, this is what confuses them and I have even questioned and in the end its the YOLK that they think is the air cell moving! yes I just said that! But when something is new to ppl they dont know this stuff! You have done your research well, and if the embryos are still alive you are doing something right my friend! carry on!

Only time will tell, and you are doing whats best for them. please inform of your candle and if you have someone on hand to take a video of your candles that would be AWESOME! and if you get them to hatch that also is great useful information and proof of what you have tried works!

I sure am praying for them you can bet that!!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Filled the incubator with water this morming, towards the end of the 18th day. Hope I didn't wait too long!

 

[chicksooner]

So this morning, I get up early to feed him before going to work, and my female faverolle is now doing the exact same thing! She was fine last night. My favs have been in the same brooder with my brahma babies, and my brahmas are doing great, so I don't think it's nutrition any more. So I went ahead and have her poly-vi-sol this am as well. This is getting to be really depressing.

When multiple from that breeder started having the same issues I blamed hereditary issues. Mine that I hatched from my eggs had been perfectly normal. I think with some breeds the gene pool is really small and things like this are common. If you keep treating I wish you luck. Like I said I knew I would never be able to use mine for breeding and they wouldn't show so I opted to cull. I'm not one for leaving an animal to suffer. Some have had theirs live a happy life but they will always have a crooked neck even if you get them to the point of looking straight ahead again.

 

[chicksooner]

Filled the incubator with water this morming, towards the end of the 18th day. Hope I didn't wait too long!

Fingers crossed! Keep us updated.

 

[cochins1088]

Filled the incubator with water this morming, towards the end of the 18th day. Hope I didn't wait too long!

You don't need to increase the humidity until you see internal pips, so you should be fine.

 

[subhanalah]

You don't need to increase the humidity until you see internal pips, so you should be fine.

shew! That's good to know. It's what I thought, but maybe I don't even k ow an internal pup when I see it lol.

 

[cochins1088]

I must admit if I have a rolling air cell at this point I trash the egg immediately and have done just this with harmonyAnns silkie eggs she won.
I dont think its worth the stress and RARELY do they hatch, I dont think I have hatched a rolling one yet. Displaced and wiggly YES they hatch!

You must be careful in reading other peoples information, some ppl will post rolling as a loose air cell, and swear they can hatch them. a rolling cell means the air bubble in the egg goes from one end all the way to the other, this is what confuses them and I have even questioned and in the end its the YOLK that they think is the air cell moving! yes I just said that! But when something is new to ppl they dont know this stuff! You have done your research well, and if the embryos are still alive you are doing something right my friend! carry on!

Hey Sally,

Is a rolling air cell when the membrane separating the air cell from the rest of the egg has ruptured, or just an air cell that is able to move all the way to the other end?