Diatomaceous Earth

Phelanite

In the Brooder
10 Years
Jun 4, 2009
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Phelan, California
I am looking to buy this locally any suggestion about where to look for it? I have searched the web and the cost of shipping is much more than the cost of purchase. As stated in my newbe welcome I am totaly a rookie at this but it seems that this product could only be benifitial to all my animals as well as me. I live in the upper desert of Southern California and am willing to go where ever needed within reason to purchase Diaomaceous Earth. Los Angeles area is fine ect. Thank you.
 

granmahen

Songster
11 Years
Jun 11, 2008
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I'm in Bakersfield, and I go to my local feed store and ask them to order it. I think it cost around $30 and was 50lbs and is lasting about a year. I suggest you call your local feed store and ask them to order it for you. Make sure they order food grade.
 

Phelanite

In the Brooder
10 Years
Jun 4, 2009
28
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Phelan, California
Thanks that is what I am going to try. I have Kruse not too far from me as well but I find no info on thier site. I have seen on other sites that the wonderful state of California is limiting products produced with this in it to our state. Kind of figures? How is it working for you and do you feed it to other animals or just use it for insect control?
 

Glenda L Heywood

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Apr 11, 2009
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Here is some information on DE food grade
it is used for all kinds of fowl and animals
A friend of mine sent me this information on using DE versus Chemical wormers
Using DE as 2% of the amt of feed fed daily is great help in keeping fowl and animals healthy
always wear a mask when handling DE

[email protected] wrote:


ADVANTAGES OF DIATOMACEOUS EARTH
DISADVANTAGE OF CHEMICAL POISONS

ADVANTAGES OF DIATOMACEOUS EARTH WITH FARM ANIMALS

1. No toxins-desirable for safety

2. Effective in Control of internal and external parasites (sprinkled on body and nest and all sleeping areas prevents mites, fleas, etc.)

3. Mixed with feed it constantly attacks parasites. Keeps bugs out of feed. Terminates worms daily inside animals stomach as they eat food treated with DE.

4. Better feed conversion

5 Less presence of odor & dryer droppings making for easier clean up

6. Flies and larva are killed by DE left in the manure

7. Easy to feed
8. Decreased mortality

9. Can be used as a dust for external parasites

10. Calcium provided for egg production, may increase number of eggs laid

11. Trace elements for cell growth and bone development

12. May halt cannibalism in some cases

13. Eliminates worms and flies in feed bins resulting in less waste of feed.

14. Provides calcium and trace minerals for bones, feathers, hair, fur, and body Animals and Fowl and Poultry ingesting DE have
better quality fur, hair, and feathers.

15. In cattle- increased milk production and promotes higher butter fat content

16. In cattle- decreased mastitis

17. In food animals and dairy cattle- no withdrawal prior to use of products, immediate onsummation of eggs and meat and milk, no waiting period.

18. Parasites and insects cannot build up resistence

19. Cost - for meat and milk animals it can be free to use considering 4, 8, & 13

20. Proven to be Less expensive than chemicals because DE prevents sick animals due to worms,

#13 veres veterinary bills,lower feed bills due to #13. In some cases less feed is consumed because of the anti-caking properties of DE allowing more surface area of food to be utilized for nutrients
Adding DE promotes health for your animals and birds every day as it is used..

DISADVANTAGES OF USING RECOMMENDED POISONS WITH
ANIMALS

POULTRY AND SWINE COMPETITIVE PRODUCT- PIPERAZINE
1. On the hit list of the FDA to be discontinued
2. Very toxic
3. Only kills internal parasites
4. Can only be used every 30 days
5. REINFESTATION BEGINS WITHIN 48 HOURS

SHEEP & GOATS COMPETITIVE PRODUCT- TBZ
1. Not easy to dispense
2. Stress on animal
3. Not effective
4. Controls only internal parasites
5. REINFESTATION BEGINS WITHIN 48 HOURS

DOGS & CATS COMPETITIVE PRODUCT- HARTZ WORMER- ONCE
PER MONTH
1. Makes animal sick
2. Controls only internal parasites
3. REINFESTATION BEGINS WITHIN 48 HOURS

RATITES COMPETITIVE PRODUCT- NONE APPROVED

HORSES COMPETITIVE PRODUCT- IVERMECTIN
1. Cost- 11-12 dollars every 60 days for 1200 pound
horse
2. Possibility of colic if overdosed
3. Cannot use animal for 48 hours after treatment
4. Parasites build up resistance
5. REINFESTATION BEGINS WITHIN 48 HOURS

BEEF CATTLE COMPETITIVE PRODUCT- IVERMECTIN
1. Cost
2. Stress on herd to treat
3. Cost of labor to treat
4. Loss of gain due to stress
5. Toxic
6. Only kills internal parasites
7. 12 day withdrawal prior to slaughter
8. REINFESTATION BEGINS WITHIN 48 HOURS

DAIRY CATTLE COMPETITIVE PRODUCT- SAFEGUARD OR
IVERMECTIN
1. 10 day withdrawal prior to selling milk
2. Cost
3. Stress on animals
4. REINFESTATION BEGINS WITHIN 48 HOURS

text by Gladys Miller contact [email protected]
 

Glenda L Heywood

Songster
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Apr 11, 2009
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you read this information on using DE on farm animals

Suggested feeding of DE:

Beef Cattle 1% of total weight of dry ration; 5% in grain

Dairy Cattle 1% of total weight of dry ration

Calves 4 grams in morning milk per calf

Chickens 5% in feed, use at full strength in >dusting boxes

Hogs 2% of total feed ration, dust or spray on bedding and animals


Horses 5 ounces (1 cup) in daily feed ration

Sheep 1% in ground grains; 1 part Diatomaceous Earth to 2 parts T-M salt

Goats 1% in grain; 5% per bushel of feed: up to 50% in T-M salt

Dogs 1 Tablespoon per day in daily ration for dogs over 35 lbs.; 1 teaspoon per day in ration for small
dogs and puppies, rub powder at full strength into the coat for fleas and sprinkle on bedding

Cats 1 tsp. per daily ration, rub at full strength into coat for fleas and sprinkle on bedding

Diatomaceous Earth can be used as a dust or spray for control of flies and other insects in buildings,
on pastures, crops and trees. The DE will be effective once it dries.

Some folks feed DE daily by measurement, some free feed it. You can't overdose, but if enough isn't
fed, it won't work.

My steer, Mammoth and hog eat it out of a bucket. Their fecals are clean. Flies can't reproduce in the
manure.

I mix the DE into the chicken feed and sprinkle the DE in the pens. No odor in the pens. No mites on the birds.

The dogs prefer the DE mixed with a bit of corn oil. No fleas on the dogs.
any questions email me
 
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Glenda L Heywood

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I think that you will enjoy this knowledge on DE

VARIOUS MIXTURES OF DIATOMACEOUS EARTH FOSSIL SHELL FLOUR
Gladys Miller [email protected] Wide spread interest in Diatomaceous Earth, as a feed additive for poultry and fowl, has created a need for discussion about the various mixtures of DE on the market today. There are several variations of DE,
although they all start out as Basic Diatomaceous Earth they may be prepared
differently and may have additives.

AMORPHOUS CODEX FOOD GRADE FRESH WATER DIATOMACEOUS
EARTH FOSSIL SHELL FLOUR
is the product we carry. This DE has not been heat treated. It is safe for
animal consumption in not more than 2% of total food rations fed to animal.
This is also the same DE that is mixed in cake mixes and flour and cornmeal
and toothpaste and many pharmacy products. We humans ingest this same DE
every day in many of the prepared products we buy at the grocery store. It
is used by grain farmers to prevent bugs from being in the corn and wheat
that is ground for food. When the grain is ground the DE is also left in.

Another type is the DE that is used in swimming pools and aquariums, it is
usually mined from salt water. It is then heat treated to add additional
hardening to the shells and becomes silica. This is not digestible to
animals and is toxic for them to consume.

Yet another type is the DE that has pyretheryn added as an insect killer.
You can see that this would not be good for the animals to ingest. This
could also be heat treated and could be from salt water. Even though
pyretheryn is not supposed to be toxic you do not know if the DE has been
heat treated or not, and no one would want to have the animal eat insect
poison. However, this particular mixture is a fantastic bug killer around
the farm.

I hope this has helped you understand the different kinds of DE. I might
add that there are maybe even more mixtures, that you might find, that even I
do not know about.

Just remember that you need to have AMORPHOUS CODEX FOOD GRADE FRESH WATER DIATOMACEOUS EARTH FOSSIL SHELL FLOUR for animal
feed additive anything else could be toxic.

Diatomaceous Earth Fossil Shell Flour aids in daily prevention of reinfestation of worms in animals as they ingest it daily on feed. With chemical wormers the animals are beginning a reinfestation within 24 hrs of worming.

DE fossil shell flour has virtues for prized birds, it is parasitical, a digestive aid, and contains trace minerals, and calcium. DE is a compatible natural compound of organic origin that works harmoniously with the body. Results of Feeding, DE promotes healthier looking birds with a definite sheen to feathers, absence of parasites, better feed conversion, reduction in dropping odors, noticeable decrease in fly population. Healthier birds are produced.

Zoos testing DE Fossil Shell Flour produced animals with better coats, clearer eyes, pronounced improvement in both appearance and behavior of animals. Birds had better feather condition, better egg production and sufficient trace minerals.

The Bio-integral Resource Center, Berkley, Ca. concluded that DE is a nontoxic, non hazardous animal food additive that is an effective alternative to wide varieties of pest problems in pets.

any questions email me
 

Bear Foot Farm

Crowing
11 Years
Mar 31, 2008
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Grifton NC
I've never been able to find one real SCIENTIFIC study that shows DE does anything other than kill some insects when used in a DRY form.

On the other hand, I've seen LOTS of pages such as what is posted above, and ALWAYS by someone SELLING DE.
 

sealsandwich

Songster
11 Years
Nov 3, 2008
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Alaska
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Oh my goodness. I have no opinion one way or the other because I am not an informed person. But what I do know for certain...

This poster is a BRAVE soul!!
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Phelanite

In the Brooder
10 Years
Jun 4, 2009
28
1
24
Phelan, California
I have looked at several sites on the net and I say why not try it? It looks like it can only benifit whatever eats it. I am considering spreading it on the ground of the coup and yard. I have a new steer coming soon as well. All I want is to raise my own food chemical/ hormone free. We eat what we raise it is all food for us. So we want to have the best that we can put forward. I am even considering trying the stuff myself. If the animals don't die whats the risk for me? Have you ever eaten any dog food to see what it is like?
 

Phelanite

In the Brooder
10 Years
Jun 4, 2009
28
1
24
Phelan, California
Quote:
Oh my goodness. I have no opinion one way or the other because I am not an informed person. But what I do know for certain...

This poster is a BRAVE soul!!
lau.gif


Where in Alaska do you live? I lived there in 82 in Anchorage. It is totaly a different place now.
 
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