Did you know that your child could be in danger?

[babylady4]

Lying on a lease? I bet there are laws on that alone.....

I think you should become the nosey neighbor; document everything you see and do not see going on over there, and notify who you need to about any violations.

 

[Hollywood Chickens]

She has money to keep horses but is behind on the rent?? Unfortunately people tend to care a lot more about animal well-being than humans, so reporting her horses might get something done, and making her life miserable might get her to do something so blatantly illegal that the police would have to do something about it.

My neighbor left threatening messages on my answering machine and the police told her that if she didn't stop we could file a restraining order, she stopped I don't see why your police aren't doing anything! that's what they are there for!!!

By the way, who told you that you can't tell anyone who it is?

 

[farmgirl1995]

For a child to do that to another child...it musta been done to her. Best wishes to you

 

[PineappleMama]

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On that note... what happens if this kid hurts someone else... will they then be able to sue you because you didn't warn them of a threat to their child's safety? I'd make sure there was a statute on that ASAP. If there is any case where that has happened, where a suit was even allowed to GO to court then you've got reason to protect yourself... just a theory of course...

Also brings to mind all the times in articles I've seen the words "said in anonymity because this person is not authorized to speak"... while disclosing the facts of ongoing criminal cases for instance that end up causing a judge to declare a mistrial... or business plans that cost millions and hundreds of jobs because they are beat out and are forced to close... or government tidbits leaked out that maybe citizens have a right to know... but maybe it's stuff that really IS security and you just handed it to the terrorists... with no care at all if you botch a trial and let a criminal walk, cost people their jobs, or get someone bombed because you got your payoff from the hotshot journalist. That chaps me no end. But in this instance you talking 'anonymously'... perhaps a hypothetical article... come at it from that angle... if you weren't born there they could easily say the interviewee is "from out of state" and not be telling a lie at all... and you could tell your tale, not mentioning ANY names or places... and then the journalist can go from there stating the laws that just so happen to be the same HERE... with a warning to all parents to watch their children, boys and girls, very carefully... ?

I donno... sending some healing, happy, good economics thoughts your way.

 

[chicken_china_mom]

I have to admit, when I read the title of your post, it caught my attention immediately. Then when I read your post, I was absolutely mortified. I read through every comment, and I am so upset FOR you that I could spit nails! I am the mother of 2 girls ages 12 and almost 11 (she'll be 11 on Thanksgiving day), and I have a friend who's oldest daughter was sexually molested by a child too, and had to stand back and watch as practically nothing happened to that boy. Oh, by the way, my friend lives in Illinois. That sex offender? Ended up getting a 14 year old girl pregnant. Spent all of about 6 months total in Juvenile detention. Oh, and that was BEFORE he got that girl pregnant. My friend's daughter was about 12 or 13 when that boy molested her. It was extremely inappropriate touching, he didn't actually rape my friend's daughter, but he HAS done that to other girls since then. He's about 21 now, give or take.

It just infuriates me to no end that you are sitting there, unable to do anything, and these people moved in next door to you?! I found myself thinking, gee, I wish I had known about that house first, I would have rented it, and then your daughter would be safe. I know what it's like raising children with disabilities. My older daughter has Asperger's, and my younger daughter has separation anxiety and OCD, among other things, and if someone touched one of my girls, it would be a complete emotional meltdown for them, and for me. But I tell you, I'd be suing the other people for emotional damages. I'd make their lives a living hell. Seeing that kind of stuff on the internet is not the only source of this child's disturbing behavior, I'd bet my life on it. That little girl has been touched or even raped by someone. It may not be someone in her own home, but it's someone she was in close contact with. A neighbor? A cousin? An uncle? My first look would be at that apartment building, however I am suspicious that the wife and husband have separated. If she doesn't look like she's gotten a job, then he could be supporting her and the kid, and to do that without a court order means that either they had an extremely amicable split, or he feels guilty. He could be the molester.

I agree with whoever recommended the cameras. Plan some right at the border of your property, and make them clear as day. You say you can't put put up signs saying that the sex offender lives next door? Fine. Put up signs right under the camera, smack in front of their property that says "SMILE, YOU'RE ON CANDID CAMERA!" Let them know that you are watching them, and make sure you have the sheriff deliver that letter. Aim a camera directly at their property but set it back just far enough so that in order to tamper with it, they would have to step foot on your property, in which case you would get them on trespassing charges AND property damage. That's a lot of fines, and if they can't pay their rent, then I'm sure they can't pay their fines. Oh, and I'd find a different public phone every single day and call animal control on them about their horses. EVERY SINGLE DAY. Animal control will come out over and over before they begin to suspect the calls are bogus. You don't want them next door to you, and they shouldn't be next door to you. That's just sick. I'd also get a canopy, attach a tarp to the back of it, and put it in a place in the yard where they cannot see it from their house up on the hill, and aim a camera at it and keep it in a location where you can see it at all times, and let your daughter play in there. She can play dolls, or she can play with her chickens or dogs, and the sex offender and her mom wouldn't be able to see or watch your daughter. And please, do everything that you possibly can to get someone to get some help for that little girl next door. She WILL do it again if she doesn't get help. Maybe call DCFS on her mom and do it anonymously. Claim neglect or abuse, or endangerment, or whatever you have to in order to get someone to stand up and take notice. Oh, and I'd put up signs all around your land stating "No Trespassing". Clearly stated signs that are ignored is a crime. Good luck, I will pray for your family, and pray that that child gets the help she needs so desperately. She's well on her way to becoming a monster. This whole situation just breaks my heart...

 

[dkvart1]

My heart broke reading this thread. Such a sad story on so many levels.

Thankfully your daughter confided in you and is recieving therapy to aid her in recovery. It is such a sad story in so many ways and it's terrible that there is seems to be nothing you can do about them living next door or to see to it that this doesn't happen to another child.

I simply find it incomprehensible that children assualting children sexually is NOT a crime!

I agree with several others, be that squeeky wheel and yes an article in the newspaper would not be a bad idea. It can be done without naming names (yours or theirs) in such a way as to draw attention to the fact that this type of thing is happening and laws need to change to protect the innocent. I also liked the idea of providing some sort of screen to offer your daughter privacy from them so she doesn't feel she trapped under their gaze.

I will keep your family in my thoughts and prayers through this difficult time.

 

[redhen]

Good idea about putting up a screen of some sort...
I would do it so your daughter isnt trapped inside...

Any new news on anything?

 

[Camelot Farms]

Quick update. Finally got the return receipt showing that the mother received the Notice of No Trespass. Taking it to the Sheriff's Office tomorrow for filing. I will be keeping a copy here also.

DD's In-Home-Intensive-Counselor found a local program that generally works with offenders but also offer victim services. We are hoping to get DD in there if it isnt too far out of our budget.
The counselor is wondering that since they also work with the perpetrators, if they will have some tips for us to try to get some justice in the criminal courts.

CCM: We do have the No Trespass signs up. I did report it to DCFS and its not in their jurisdiction because they are both children. I tried calling in the fact that the child is allowed access to live-stream and video pornography. I was told at the state hotline that this is not a reportable offense. They said that 'it gets into what goes on in the privacy of peoples homes'. That was a bang my head against the wall moment.

I love the tarp idea. In the summer months it wont be so bad because there is a HUGE tree that blocks their view of the front of our home so DD can play out on the screened in porch. But right now, when she is out there, its like being in a fish bowl. *sigh*

I contacted our local newspaper to see if they would be interested in looking into it.... Nope. No response. Apparently the safety of children in the community is not as important as the elections etc.

DS has to ride the bus with the offender. He said that its been a week and no one sits with her on the bus. Today the seat across from her had 4 children in it and none would move over and sit with her. I asked DS if there has been anything blowing around in the schools about this and he says no. So, maybe other kids have a vibe about her....?

So, we are still in a holding pattern til we talk to the new program and see if they have any tips.

Thanks so much everyone for all of the kind words. Its lonely here sometimes

 

[Mattemma]

Prayers for you and your dd! I would move by you too. I know someone once mentioned a thread to post homes for sale/rent.I think that would be such a good idea. So hard to find like-minded people.

I have seen mesh screens that can be tied to fences or poles.Another option is ornamental grass,bamboo,or corn. I grow 14 foot corn just for the screen purposes. My mom got me some bamboo,but that is taking forever.Corn is a fast screen,and the hens love the corn cobs.

I agree the child will do it again unless she is helped,or she herself will be molested/abused long term.It is unfortunate the mom does not want to deal with it,and finds denial easier.Prayers for them too that they both have the strength to face what has been done AND get help.

I still can not understand why in the world they would move next to you of all places?!?!? If my child molested someone and I was in denial I would think moving AWAY from the area would be the only option.

 

[Camelot Farms]

Mattemma... When the report was made, DD's name had to be kept confidential because of the laws protecting sexual assault victims.
I believe that they thought the victim lived in their old neighborhood so they decided to move away from the accusations.

Unfortunately, they moved next door to the true accuser.