Discussion of Legbar Standard of Perfection for -Alternative- Legbars - SOP discussion

[ChicKat]

Thank you for showing how he is aging, by the way, I like him, he is similar to the color trends in my boys. I thought someone else told me the white tail feathers were a DQ, but I know they can come and go.

Know what? Talk about aging....in some places - they hatch with the intention to have the chicken at a certain age for a show-- because they tend to look best at that age. For females - 6-months old on show day and for males -- to be in the cockerel class probably 11-months and the cock class probably 13 months - because he won't have progressed into decrepitude yet. ;O).

 

[fowlman01]

Know what?  Talk about aging....in some places - they hatch with the intention to have the chicken at a certain age for a show-- because they tend to look best at that age.  For females - 6-months old on show day and for males -- to be in the cockerel class probably 11-months and the cock class probably 13 months - because he won't have progressed into decrepitude yet.  ;O).

This is done by many breeders of show chickens.

Walt

 

[KendyF]

To keep the color conversation going. These four hens are all right about 1 year old, they have brown feathers vs. gray and what I think is a dark salmon breast. You can't hurt my feelings, they are chickens, and I promise not to tell them what you say... 2 have large crests, which blend in too well, it is hard to capture with the camera. 2 have very small crests. All but one has a flop to one side comb. The other one has a comb with is just a mess. In this picture they appear just a little darker than they seem in RL. Are they too dark to be considered Cream?

 

[sol2go]

To keep the color conversation going. These four hens are all right about 1 year old, they have brown feathers vs. gray and what I think is a dark salmon breast. You can't hurt my feelings, they are chickens, and I promise not to tell them what you say... 2 have large crests, which blend in too well, it is hard to capture with the camera. 2 have very small crests. All but one has a flop to one side comb. The other one has a comb with is just a mess. In this picture they appear just a little darker than they seem in RL. Are they too dark to be considered Cream?

I'll venture to say that two are not too dark to be used in a cream breeding program, and two might have extra melanization you would have to breed out. But it's difficult to say without a closer shot. From this view I'm not sure if I would say any of them are double for cream...

 

[ChicKat]

My choices are vibrant salmon breasts on the females - and tight and neat crests that look like they were just trimmed. I'm looking for small female combs. comb (ETA said crest meant comb) flops on females are fine - I have one that I wonder if her comb obstructs some of her vision.

Looks like you have nice long backs going on there.

colorwise -- the brown probably needs to be toned down in future..


You have some pretty good 'barns' there to work on painting IMO. I also see no black ticking or smudges on your females' salmon. Salmon is an indicator of wild type (e+) so it is a good thing to perpetuate as I see it. Thanks for the photos -- Pretty piece of property -too --such lucky chooks! ;O)

 

[sol2go]

My choices are vibrant salmon breasts on the females - and tight and neat crests that look like they were just trimmed. I'm looking for small female combs. comb (ETA said crest meant comb) flops on females are fine - I have one that I wonder if her comb obstructs some of her vision.

Looks like you have nice long backs going on there.

colorwise -- the brown probably needs to be toned down in future..


You have some pretty good 'barns' there to work on painting IMO. I also see no black ticking or smudges on your females' salmon. Salmon is an indicator of wild type (e+) so it is a good thing to perpetuate as I see it. Thanks for the photos -- Pretty piece of property -too --such lucky chooks! ;O)

I agree, some nice long backs, and yes! what a pretty yard @KendyF =)

 

[KendyF]

Thanks for the feedback, I suddenly find myself not just watching my chickens, but noticing every feather and line, color in the shade and in the sun. Does she always stand like that? I am not sure I really wanted to know my chickens... this well. lol. I have 10 LB hens, the one with the best color is tiny and thin. She looks like a pullet. She has a really cute little crest too.

 

[sol2go]

Thanks for the feedback, I suddenly find myself not just watching my chickens, but noticing every feather and line, color in the shade and in the sun. Does she always stand like that? I am not sure I really wanted to know my chickens... this well. lol. I have 10 LB hens, the one with the best color is tiny and thin. She looks like a pullet. She has a really cute little crest too.

Cute with good color is how my best foundation hen started out. Happily she keeps producing pullets more than any other hen, and they always have a nice gray & cream crest and usually end up with cream hackles; her rooster is split for cream. She is also tiny but lays a normal size egg and the rooster is a good size; her offspring have been bigger than her and are now as big as my larger CL hens who have all kinds of other "faults".

I have it on good authority that it is not only therapeutic to sit around and watch chickens, but may contribute to a stronger breeding program. Sounds like you are well on your way!

 

[ChicKat]

ingrid is nice...and I think that type is far more important and needs a lot of work -- but people can not seem to focus on type because of color. What about Ingrid and you other cockerel designate them as non-cream... I'm still trying to grasp it here...she looks quite cream to my eye.

Also did they both haave crests?

Still wondering what about Ingrid is non-Cream, and does she have a crest....the only think I can see is that her back plumage isn't gray.... is that how you are designating? Oh and is she crestless?

 

[flyingmonkeypoop]

Still wondering what about Ingrid is non-Cream, and does she have a crest....the only think I can see is that her back plumage isn't gray.... is that how you are designating? Oh and is she crestless?

She does have a small crest. In person, she looks gold like my legbar x leghorns. Her hackle color is more rich and not soft/dull like I would consider cream to be. To me-her size and type is almost my ideal. The only things I'd change are a better lower breast, a little bit of a sweep (not leghorn but not as abrupt), and a slightly better crest. I'll try to get a better picture of her soon.