Do I Say Something or Is It Better To Say Nothing? Re: Vulture Hocks

[Ruthster55]

Ha yes, I'm sure it wont.

Yep, I'm in Ireland. I only have a few show standards at the moment, but the are to british standards yes.

The breeders said this one's a keeper. Seriously.

 

[EmmaRainboe]

The breeders said this one's a keeper. Seriously.

The breeder might not care about creating show birds, she might be focusing more on creating lovable birds for people to enjoy.

 

[Ruthster55]

The breeder might not care about creating show birds, she might be focusing more on creating lovable birds for people to enjoy.

This is probably the case to some extent, but the adult Rooster from the second breeder looks show-quality to me.

These two breeders have people ask over and over again on FB if they have any birds for sale. They typically do not, which indicates that the demand for these birds is high. Most of the people who buy them won't show them. Fluffy Brahmas are indeed adorbs!

 

[HappyDuckie]

Did you ask if they breed their birds to a standard?

 

[Ruthster55]

Did you ask if they breed their birds to a standard?

The second breeder has posted that they use a standard. In my comment on FB, I referenced the difference between the British Poultry Standards and the APA Standard, so that was a way of asking whether they use a standard.

In other words, I believe that both breeders use a standard, which is likely the British one.

By the way, I believe the British Poultry Standards are a little bit more forgiving in some ways than the APA Standard of Perfection.

Not just on this issue, but the British Poultry Standards include some breeds that aren't in the APA Standard. They include the British autosexing breeds like the Cambar, Rhodebar etc.

Ayam Cemani are included in the British Standards. I might be wrong if they have been included recently, but I don't think that Ayams are in the APA Standard.

 

[HappyDuckie]

The second breeder has posted that they use a standard. In my comment on FB, I referenced the difference between the British Poultry Standards and the APA Standard, so that was a way of asking whether they use a standard.

In other words, I believe that both breeders use a standard, which is likely the British one.

By the way, I believe the British Poultry Standards are a little bit more forgiving in some ways than the APA Standard of Perfection.

Not just on this issue, but the British Poultry Standards include some breeds that aren't in the APA Standard. They include the British autosexing breeds like the Cambar, Rhodebar etc.

Ayam Cemani are included in the British Standards. I might be wrong if they have been included recently, but I don't think that Ayams are in the APA Standard.

Ah, I see. If they are in fact breeding towards the British standard, which accepts the vulture hocks, then I don't see a problem. Is this breeder in the U.S.?

 

[Amer]

I personally love that chick! I love the look of the vulture hocks but I don't show birds. If I did show birds it might be a problem but I don't think it's a problem for the average backyard chicken keeper. I wouldn't mind having it in my own flock

Or you could raise d’Uccles, Booted Bantams or Sultans.

South America is definitely an interesting place to be coming from, it’s a rare pleasure to speak with a member from there. While we’re here may I ask if exhibition poultry is common there?

 

[Amer]

Ah, I see. If they are in fact breeding towards the British standard, which accepts the vulture hocks, then I don't see a problem. Is this breeder in the U.S.?

Northern South America. The American Standard of Perfection applies to all of North America but I don’t know what applies in South America.

 

[Ruthster55]

Or you could raise d’Uccles, Booted Bantams or Sultans.

South America is definitely an interesting place to be coming from, it’s a rare pleasure to speak with a member from there. While we’re here may I ask if exhibition poultry is common there?

I'm actually an expat.

Poultry shows aren't super common here, especially not this year. Of course, there is an exposition or two aimed at industrial producers of meat and eggs, but that's another subject.

However, there are plenty of people who have chickens of various breeds and allow them to mate, with varying results. The year-round climate helps this.

There is a place that is bringing some rare breeds into the country. https://www.gallinasraras.com/catalogo-de-aves
If you look at the Plymouth Rock on that page, you'll see that it's a good one, even though Barred Plymouth Rocks aren't a rare breed.

Another person has an interesting project with blue eggs. She only selects the eggs and incubates the blue ones. The chickens that result are of all colors and appearances, but around 80% lay blue eggs!

 

[Amer]

I'm actually an expat.

Poultry shows aren't super common here, especially not this year. Of course, there is an exposition or two aimed at industrial producers of meat and eggs, but that's another subject.

However, there are plenty of people who have chickens of various breeds and allow them to mate, with varying results. The year-round climate helps this.

There is a place that is bringing some rare breeds into the country. https://www.gallinasraras.com/catalogo-de-aves
If you look at the Plymouth Rock on that page, you'll see that it's a good one, even though Barred Plymouth Rocks aren't a rare breed.

Another person has an interesting project with blue eggs. She only selects the eggs and incubates the blue ones. The chickens that result are of all colors and appearances, but around 80% lay blue eggs!

I’m not surprised to hear that, we have a few expats on here. That site looks fascinating, I’ll definitely have to check it out.