Do You Own A Gun ?

While no expert, I am somewhat familiar with firearm handling. Grew up hunting, was in military, shot IPSC, Action Pistol, Palma, matches at Camp Perry, and some 3 gun, along with I just like to shoot.

If someone who has handled a pistol very little, is looking for one for self protection, I recommend a double action revolver. While that may not sound as cool as a Lock or 1911 or such, they are reliable. Shoot it, get familiar with it. While it may not hold 17 plus rounds, if you haven't stopped the situation in 5 or 6 shots, you have not shot it enough to be able to hit with it, or you put yourself in a position that you never should have gotten yourself into. Plus, if you have a FTF or FTE would you know how to clear it in a stressful situation? If you have to look FTF or FTE up, stick with a double action revolver for now. A .38 special has manageable recoil and will do about anything you need to do with proper shot placement.

When purchasing a pistol, handle as many as you can before purchase. When you pick it up, it should be like an extension of your arm - follow in a straight line from the elbow thru the wrist, and down the barrel WITHOUT having to shift it or adjust it. If it does not naturally form that straight line, it does not fit you.

In shotguns, I recommend against buying a single shot. In a stressful situation, will you be able to reload it after one shot? On pumps and autos, I do not feel you need a magazine extension. As above, without a plug, most can hold 4 in the magazine, and if you keep one in the chamber, 5 rounds, so again, if you haven't taken care of the situation in 4-5 rds you are not familiar enough with the weapon.

I feel red dot sights, lasers, etc are a waste of money in a self defense weapon. If you learn proper handling, all you will have to check is the front sight.

Rifles, if anyone is interested, I can do in another post.
 
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While no expert, I am somewhat familiar with firearm handling. Grew up hunting, was in military, shot IPSC, Action Pistol, Palma, matches at Camp Perry, and some 3 gun, along with I just like to shoot.

If someone who has handled a pistol very little, is looking for one for self protection, I recommend a double action revolver. While that may not sound as cool as a Lock or 1911 or such, they are reliable. Shoot it, get familiar with it. While it may not hold 17 plus rounds, if you haven't stopped the situation in 5 or 6 shots, you have not shot it enough to be able to hit with it, or you put yourself in a position that you never should have gotten yourself into. Plus, if you have a FTF or FTE would you know how to clear it in a stressful situation? If you have to look FTF or FTE up, stick with a double action revolver for now. A .38 special has manageable recoil and will do about anything you need to do with proper shot placement.

When purchasing a pistol, handle as many as you can before purchase. When you pick it up, it should be like an extension of your arm - follow in a straight line from the elbow thru the wrist, and down the barrel WITHOUT having to shift it or adjust it. If it does not naturally form that straight line, it does not fit you.

In shotguns, I recommend against buying a single shot. In a stressful situation, will you be able to reload it after one shot? On pumps and autos, I do not feel you need a magazine extension. As above, without a plug, most can hold 4 in the magazine, and if you keep one in the chamber, 5 rounds, so again, if you haven't taken care of the situation in 4-5 rds you are not familiar enough with the weapon.

I feel red dot sights, lasers, etc are a waste of money in a self defense weapon. If you learn proper handling, all you will have to check is the front sight.

Rifles, if anyone is interested, I can do in another post.

i'm not fond of revolver to be honest . .but it's just personal preference

for shotguns you have pumps or semi-auto.. for civilians there's no auto shotguns (that i'm aware off) automatic weapons are illegal in Arizona.. if you want one.. you have to jump through a lot of legal loopholes to get them.. of which i'lll not bother

pump shotguns are cheaper.. semi-automatic shotguns will be more expensive

the shotguns i was looking at carry about 4-8 rounds.. ranging from $180-ish to $1000 (more or less)

lasers- kind of like the FPS games.. with a dot on a paper target. it's a lot easier to see the exact location that i'll be shooting at..but they are pricey.. so didn't really bother

i have have rifles.. not yet..
 
Auto , automatic and semi auto on a shotgun is universal terms. Browning made the "Auto 5" which is a semi auto if you want to get technical, but the automatic part is that it reloads itself. (ie no pumping)

While several don't like revolvers, some of which because they don't have the "cool" factor, a double action revolver IS reliable. Point and pull trigger. No FTE or FTF. Unless someone has trained seriously on an automatic ( I know it's semi auto) pistol, a DA revolver is probably the best choice.

Without pulling my log book, my old surplus Remington Rand 1911 has had a little over 127,000 rounds thru it since I started keeping track, (1983 I believe) two complete over hauls, 5 or 6 barrels and various other pieces
 
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Auto , automatic and semi auto on a shotgun is universal terms. Browning made the "Auto 5" which is a semi auto if you want to get technical, but the automatic part is that it reloads itself. (ie no pumping)

no i'm not trying to get technical i'm just stating that there's no automatic shotguns here

just pump or semi-auto shotguns for civiilians..

the handguns i own are also semi-auto..

automatic weapons are illegal in the state of Arizona.. with a few exceptions
 
Would those exceptions be the ones the DOJ sent to the cartels?
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the US government arming criminals/drug cartels are nothing new ..you just don't see it on the news.. since you can't have that type of stuff on the tv now would you
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there's a particular operation that stood out from the rest.. but i don't remember the name atm

oh.. it's so easy to buy a gun illegally, cheaper too.. and all the laws they put out are pointless to those who are buying them illegally


you can have an automatic weapon if you are a gun range/ training facility etc.. pretty much you need to have a license to sell/train people in firearms or something.. i don't know a lot on this

so it's possible to for civilians to get their hands on automatics in the state of AZ.. but with more legal steps they have to go through
 
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I may be wrong, for other states, as laws are constantly changing, but in Mississippi, to own a NFA Weapon capable full auto, along with SBS (short barrel shotgun, under 18"), SBR, (short barreled rifle, undr 16"), and silencers, you just need to fill out the proper paperwork, get govt approval and the tax stamp for the device.

Here in Mississippi, we can set up a Trust for such, with a few names, (just as an example, myself, wife, and our 3 children) so any of the 5 of us could legally have it in our possession, and just say, myself and my wife passed, the children wouldn't have to jump thru hoops to re-register it if their names were not on the form.

As I said, other state or local laws may vary, but for the majority of places owning FA, SBS, SBR, or a can is only a matter of paperwork

Edit: also be aware of Federal overall length laws. A shotgun with an 18" barrel AND a pistol grip replacing the buttstock may not meet Federal OAL laws (26" minimum OAL for a shotgun)
 
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