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Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by crazyhen, Apr 30, 2009.
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I did 1 drop of Ivermectin on the hens skin at the back of neck then repeated 2 weeks later. I will not do them again now for 3 months unless they get the mites back. Use DE powder in the nest boxes under the straw and round edge of hen house!
Check the dead hen with magnifying glass! There will still be mites on her if you havnt treated her before but if you did treat her before she dies then no mites will be there but they still could have killed her. Check all the hens. Usually they will come on your hands and you will feel them. They make a rash on me. Wash your hands and arms afterwards and put your clothes in the wash or just wear a t shirt. Ive been through all this so I know how you feel. I hate these evil little critters!
If your having trouble be sure and check out the link dawg53 posted. He is one of our resident experts and knows his stuff.
My hen that died was definitely bitten by mites as I've recently had an explosion of the little satanic pests. I breed birds so I have many pens but the the worst of them are currently confined to just a few. I was getting eggs this evening and my wrist is the only thing that touched the nest...I looked at it while I still had the eggs in my hand and was amazed at how bad they are compared to just yesterday. It was just the lip of the nest box, maybe a 1/4" wide, and I would guesstimate there were a couple hundred on my wrist...crazy!!
I ordered some Tanglefoot bird repellent today because it comes in a caulking tube which will make it easier to apply. I actually called and spoke to them and told them what I'm up against and mentioned that they may want to start a new product line to be marketed specifically for mites. The "bird repellent" wording would likely confuse the masses...hahaha. With backyard flocks being the fastest growing hobby in the nation I think the product would do well, more so in the south of course.
So since my discovery of the outrageous mite population this evening my new plan now is to get some 10% permethrin in the morning and spray EVERYTHING...birds and all! I have everything needed to kill internal/external parasites on the bird and I really can't afford to wait any longer but I'm concerned that the use of ivermectin may be too much for some of the weaker birds to handle at this time. Any thoughts there?
Here's a link to a members page with the dosage that I'll be following...
Does any of this info seem outdated to anyone or will it at least suffice for me currently?
One last question I bought one of those guns to try and make dosing so many birds a bit easier on myself and was hoping someone else may have some experience with them. It's the one from tractor supply - http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/store/producers-pridereg;-proshot-ii-syringe-50cc-capacity
I've never used it nor have I done the math to find out if 1cc, which is the guns minimum setting, would be over the limit for dosing. I can easily calculate if it were .46ml per pound, but .046ml per pound of body weight is making me nervous. Anybody?
Thanks for the link dawg...there's some great info in there!
Oh and hey dawg... I was set on getting permethrin until your link. It looks like a product called Permectrin II would be best ???
EDIT-- Or maybe that's just the product name and it's still permethrin
The .05% (5mg/ml) pour-on dose is .1ml per 2.2 pounds (.5mg/kg). Pour on only.
The 1% (10mg/ml) injectable dose is .02ml per 2.2 pounds (.2mg/kg). This can be injected or given orally.
An average sized RIR hen weighs 2.9kg, so she would get:
.29ml of the .05% pour on.
.058ml of the 1% injectable.
Let me know if there is an error in my math!
...okay after reading this thread the last few days I'm going to clean and spray coops and barn today. I haven't seen any mights in a while and I use the Ivermectin first sign I see. I checked the polish who are the first to get them and they were clear.
You have a mega infestation. You have to sort all hen houses today.
1. get your old clothes on you can throw away after.
2.get some rubber gloves and a dust mask/ safety protective face shield
3. Burn all the straw and bedding.
4. Net-Tex Total Mite Kill Concentrate 500ml Ref: NTX4354...Price: £9.95 ..Contains: Permethrin 2.3%, Tetramethrin 0.23%, Benzalkonium chloride. Do not spray on birds or animals, avoid contact with skin.
5. Add 100ml of Nettex Total Mite Kill Liquid Concentrate to 1 Litre of water.
6. Add to an Old mop bucket and mop all the houses and sheds, in the roofs , whack the mop head in every crevice. Watch your eyes don't get splashed and keep off your skin. My arms are still dry and sore where I splashed them..
7. Leave it for 2 hours.
8. 1 drop of Ivermectin on hen neck on skin for every bird.
9. Don't eat the eggs for a bit. I gave them to my pet pig. Hes been treated already but any residual ivermectin that is in the eggs wont do him any harm.
10. I hose blasted the fence panels down or any wood near the hen houses but it doesn't matter!
11. After 2 hours sprinkle the Diatomaceous Earth in the hen houses everywhere, roof and edges of floor. On all the floors then put saw dust over it and let it air for a while.
12. Dust the hens with net tex total mite kill powder which is just Diatomaceous Earth, on the backs, tail and feet.
13. If you have lots of hen houses maybe a Net-Tex Total Mite Kill Concentrate 2 lit which is £32. I spent £200 last week on it all and know they have gone but I'm sure I exterminated them, unless some are hiding but according to my vet who said burn the lot, but the powder will kill any stragglers.
14. Make a dust bath for the hens to sit in. Put more Diatomaceous Earth in it, just leave near hen houses. Plastic tray...
15. Strip off and burn your clothes or bin them sealed in bags and have a good long shower.
If I lived near you I would come and do it for you. If any other of your hens are lethargic and not eating then they are anemic. I tried to use a dropper and liquid that gives the hens energy, vitamins and protein, cant remember what it was called but it didn't work. The hen died.
Keep the wild birds away from your hens if you can. A good experiment would be if you shot one of the wood pigeons or birds, sorry I don't know what birds you get, wearing gloves have a look at the birds skin to see if they are carrying them. You know then that there is a risk. Don't get arrested if you shoot them.
Ive accidentally over dossed my Mille Fleur d'Uccle Bantam and shes fine. If you under dose them I think that could be more of a problem. Its getting the drop on the skin and not in the feathers where it is wasted.Your guide is correct. I cannot weigh mine though, I'm too lazy!
1 drop first week then 2 weeks later another then 3 months after that but keep checking them. I think many people do it differently.