Does anyone know how Blue and Black works in ducks?

[monarc23]

I was curious if anyone knows how blue and black works in ducks. I have 3 blue and one black duckling from a black east indies bantam duck pair. I am curious if blue is recessive in ducks just like it is in chickens. Also if anyone knows of a good website I can look up the duck genetics on. Or if they are the same as in chickens then that information would be helpful too.

I am just curious if the black duckling that hatched may also carry the blue gene, or if since its black it won't carry it. Again, I got 3 blue ducklings and one black duckling from an all black trio of black east indies. Just curious how that works out... and if it's like chickens it would make complete sense to me

thanks for any help

 

[Henk69]

Blue is not recessive in chickens and ducks.

Blue in ducks is incomplete dominant, that means it is more diluted when 2 doses.
It behaves different for ducks that are completely black (E/E) and those that are not (e+/e+).
On the latter the difference of 1 or 2 doses of blue is not that shocking.
But on complete black based ducks 1 dose gives a blue duck and 2 doses give an almost white animal (silver, blue splashed white).
Blue is not sexlinked like chocolate in ducks.

Also see http://kippenjungle.nl/kruisingEend2.html

 

[Krys109uk]

Sorry, posted at the same time.

 

[monarc23]

thank you Henk!

How is chocolate sexlinked? I had heard of this but couldn't find any real information on how to tell male from female in chocolate.

I ask because I hve a pair that are supposedly chocolates. When I purchased the pair, the female looked Khaki to me, and the male looked deciently chocolate. The pair moulted out reciently and now the hen looks much darker like chocolate should look (still nto as dark as I'd assume it should look but she's much darker now) and the drak looks blue to me.

I also have a pair of ducklings which both or neither may be from this pair I don't know for sure as the ducklings were given to me with no promise of who their parents were

The ones down was blue, and its feathered out to look just like the "chocolate drake" that now looks blue so I got two birds that look BLUE. The blue also has a slight white line just in teh front of it's chest, i assume it's a slight bibbed pattern?

THe other one had wild (grey) down and has feathered out to wild feathering. Still unsure if it's male or female though.

Anywho, if you'd like i'd be happy to get you pictures of these birds and see what you think of atleast the "chocolate" pair.


again thank you for the blue info!

 

[Henk69]

Sure, post 'm...

 

[monarc23]

Quote:
Okee dokey::::

the pair I bought as a chocolate pair (the drake is on the left he moulted out his drake feather it's coming back though):

and heres the youngsters:

thanks HenK for any info

 

[Henk69]

Dad looks self blue all right.
Mom, I must confess, looks to me like a very dark blue "mallard" color, meaning not "self".
Maybe someone can confirm that she is self chocolate (with blue also)?
Don't expect those to have an eyestripe but I may be wrong.

 

[Krys109uk]

Are the two 'youngsters' in the bottom photo offspring of the birds in the other photos?

 

[Krys109uk]

Is she a lilac (chocolate & blue) mallard & the male E/e+, Bl/bl+ ?

 

[Chris09]

Well I would say that the dad is a blue but the mom isn't a chocolate I think she could be a dark brown. Chocolate shouldn't have blue in the wings or the eye marks that I know of. I would say that someone is crossing a blue and a mallard color duck..

Chris