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Please don't confuse compassion with considering chickens as family members.
Please don't confuse compassion with considering chickens as family members.
Does this make me cold hearted and evil?
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Now this was put much better. And yes I understand this. I can not afford to take my chickens to the vet or miss work. But I do cry If I have to kill one, unless a roo has gone postal and hurt one of my kids. But I love my chickens and liveing things, and if someone wants to be overly attached and it makes them happy or very sad. I will mourn with them. but much better put.
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Why does it upset you? Why not just click on close and move on? What was your point starting this thread, other than to ridicule people who feel more strongly about their chickens than you do? Are you just bored today? No chores to do?
I have looked at some of your past posts, and yes, you seem to be a very practical, farm/ranch oriented woman. Good for you. But it doesn't make you right any more than it makes anyone else wrong.
If a topic offends you, close it. There is no rule that you have to respond to it.
I kind of wonder why I am paying so much attention to this thread- except the original post was very much intended to get a rise out of people, and the mods will tell you I rarely ignore someone being a polarizing agent.
Why does it upset you? Why not just click on close and move on? What was your point starting this thread, other than to ridicule people who feel more strongly about their chickens than you do? Are you just bored today? No chores to do?
I have looked at some of your past posts, and yes, you seem to be a very practical, farm/ranch oriented woman. Good for you. But it doesn't make you right any more than it makes anyone else wrong.
If a topic offends you, close it. There is no rule that you have to respond to it.
I kind of wonder why I am paying so much attention to this thread- except the original post was very much intended to get a rise out of people, and the mods will tell you I rarely ignore someone being a polarizing agent.
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After reading this I think we might be sisters!
After reading this I think we might be sisters!
Yotetrapper, you're not alone. It probably has to do with a rural reality based upbringing as far as regard of livestock. That being said, none of that precludes the utmost in care and upkeep of these animals. What I would do for my dogs, others might do for another species. That is their right, and I respect that. Culling at the proper time and cessation of unrelievable pain are responsibilities of all who choose to maintain animals-regardless of the species. When we start doing things for ourselves rather than the animals best interests, we are wrong. JMO Geo.
"You can judge a man's true character by the way he treats his fellow animals."
I believe you do not have a good grasp on what compassion is and from what I read in your post you lack empathy as well. No one asks you to post to someone who feels so attached to their pet chickens for the chicken's sake, but do you at least feel anything other than ridicule for the person who loves them? Do you not understand how some people can love another sentient creature that gives them so much pleasure and relieves the stress acquired from that day? just because this funny creature is ubiquitous it doesn't mean it deserves less respect.
I agree that we are on the top of the food chain and I do like to eat chicken but personally I could not raise and kill my own for food. I know that's a bit hypocritical but at least I am aware of my shortcomings and I do not laugh at others who feel the same or differently than I do. I have seen plenty of death in both humans and animals but that doesn't make me just shrug it off or laugh at someone who is heartbroken because of it. What you actually are saying is that people should not have these feelings or if they do they a silly. No one can tell anyone how to feel--their feelings belong to them and yours to you. To belong to a society we have to understand others will feel and do things differently and we all need to have respect for that--which means not laughing or chuckling at someones else's expense.
I believe you do not have a good grasp on what compassion is and from what I read in your post you lack empathy as well. No one asks you to post to someone who feels so attached to their pet chickens for the chicken's sake, but do you at least feel anything other than ridicule for the person who loves them? Do you not understand how some people can love another sentient creature that gives them so much pleasure and relieves the stress acquired from that day? just because this funny creature is ubiquitous it doesn't mean it deserves less respect.
I agree that we are on the top of the food chain and I do like to eat chicken but personally I could not raise and kill my own for food. I know that's a bit hypocritical but at least I am aware of my shortcomings and I do not laugh at others who feel the same or differently than I do. I have seen plenty of death in both humans and animals but that doesn't make me just shrug it off or laugh at someone who is heartbroken because of it. What you actually are saying is that people should not have these feelings or if they do they a silly. No one can tell anyone how to feel--their feelings belong to them and yours to you. To belong to a society we have to understand others will feel and do things differently and we all need to have respect for that--which means not laughing or chuckling at someones else's expense.
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After reading this I think we might be sisters!
You're a brave soul paddock. I already regret making this post. <sigh>
After reading this I think we might be sisters!
You're a brave soul paddock. I already regret making this post. <sigh>
I've shed a few tears over dogs, but never over a chicken.
What's the difference? They're both animals, both have intelligence. At least, I get something back from my chickens that I don't from my dog (eggs). Both show affection--yes, chickens do show affection. You may eat your chickens, but some cultures raise dogs for food, too.
Sneering at the attitudes of others here who may have a different type of relationship with their birds or animals in general is a good way to get some real negative attention. I have nothing against folks who keep chickens for livestock and never pick them up or pet them or have any relationship other than throwing them in some food and clean water on occasion, but for me to manage my flock that way would kill my enjoyment of a very pleasurable hobby to me. I think a bit of "live and let live" is called for here.
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Now THAT is a voice of reason!
Yup, agreed. That was what really bothered me in this thread, yotetrapper, not that you think of chickens as livestock, but that you would put down someone who treats them as pets, automatically linking that with someone allowing a sick or injured bird to suffer. It's not black and white.
What's the difference? They're both animals, both have intelligence. At least, I get something back from my chickens that I don't from my dog (eggs). Both show affection--yes, chickens do show affection. You may eat your chickens, but some cultures raise dogs for food, too.
Sneering at the attitudes of others here who may have a different type of relationship with their birds or animals in general is a good way to get some real negative attention. I have nothing against folks who keep chickens for livestock and never pick them up or pet them or have any relationship other than throwing them in some food and clean water on occasion, but for me to manage my flock that way would kill my enjoyment of a very pleasurable hobby to me. I think a bit of "live and let live" is called for here.
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Now THAT is a voice of reason!
Yup, agreed. That was what really bothered me in this thread, yotetrapper, not that you think of chickens as livestock, but that you would put down someone who treats them as pets, automatically linking that with someone allowing a sick or injured bird to suffer. It's not black and white.
I want to thank the OP cuz honestly there are times when I'd like to.... Well I get upset when someone posts and the poor bird suffered due to their ignorance. When you lose a bird to the dog once and then post it happeded again and again. How am I to feel sorry for YOU.
Or folks who have no idea what they are doing before they get chicks. A little research would help. Or bring home a sick chicks from TSC and then want to know what to do.
Don't get me wrong I don't laugh or find it humorous. I just wish they did a little research before getting into it. Having chickens that is.
I feel bad, most of the time and don't like to cull. So no I guess I'm not "oh well" yadda yadda yadda. I don't however name my birds cuz I never know when I might have to eat them. They are not pets they either lay or ........... I do not humanize animals, ,,, to much.
"Fish gotta swim , birds gotta fly, hens gotta lay or she gonna die, can't help lovin those chicks of mine"..
Or folks who have no idea what they are doing before they get chicks. A little research would help. Or bring home a sick chicks from TSC and then want to know what to do.
Don't get me wrong I don't laugh or find it humorous. I just wish they did a little research before getting into it. Having chickens that is.
I feel bad, most of the time and don't like to cull. So no I guess I'm not "oh well" yadda yadda yadda. I don't however name my birds cuz I never know when I might have to eat them. They are not pets they either lay or ........... I do not humanize animals, ,,, to much.
"Fish gotta swim , birds gotta fly, hens gotta lay or she gonna die, can't help lovin those chicks of mine"..
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