Dong tao chicks

[minmike1]

Where can I find breeders that ship chicks

 

[JacinLarkwell]

They're from Vietnam and until recently weren't allowed to be exported. Some claim to have them but I haven't seen proof

 

[LukebotTectonic]

Make sure you get to see the parents - actually SEE them, not pictures of them. I had friends who fell for ayam cemani when they first hit the market. They paid a (not-so-) small fortune for six straight run chicks at a meet-up. They ended up with the prettiest - and most expensive - flock of "black-ish" mixed chickens I've ever seen!

They sent me pictures of the adults and I couldn't reverse image search them. I can't drive all the way down to Akron, Ohio as I don't have my drivers license yet and I doubt my family would go on a road trip to get them. Heres the picture they sent me.

 

[Nero70002]

Actually, having them show up on a hatchery's stock list is a good thing It means that people have taken notice and there's hope for the breed! Nankins are available at a hatchery, too, but the birds look like an outcross. It takes several generations to get them close to SOP ... still, it's a start!
Australorps, Brahmas, Cochins, Heritage Leghorns (not the commercial cross) Plymouth Rock and Sussex al started out higher on the CP list, but have moved past "Recovering" to "Watch" status. Pretty much everyone with a mixed laying flock has an Australorp and or a Cochin - and Speckled Sussex are getting much more common, now. I guess that means we're doing something right! If I had more space, there are quite a few rare breeds I'd like to keep ... like the Cubalaya and Sultans and maybe some more Jersey Giants and New Hampshire Reds to match up with my two Kindergarten Rescues (two of the sweetest hens I've got!)
Chicken Math is real ... and I'm convinced that it's NOT a hobby ... it's a DISEASE!

I have 2 BJG, 1 NHR, and an SS for the "rarer" ones. First 3 are 3 weeks old last one is a week old.
Kiwi

Missy

Emo

Honey

Honey has pretty wings

 

[MROO]

I have 2 BJG, 1 NHR, and an SS for the "rarer" ones. First 3 are 3 weeks old last one is a week old.
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What a bunch of cuties!
A note about the poultry census - It's completely different from a human census. A human census counts how many people exist so the government can provide services. A poultry census is about counting birds in conservation and breed protection programs. Having a bird or two for flock and egg color diversity is great, but it doesn't protect the integrity of the pure strain unless you also have a purebred same-breed rooster for your hens. If there are no purebred chicks coming out of the breeding program, then the rare birds don't count in the census. Purebred chicks mean continuation - conservation - of the breed. THAT's what the census is about, not counting how many people have a Cochin or an Australorp or two in their flocks.

Pretty, diverse backyard flocks are very important. That's why many of us have chickens in the first place - a pretty flock and a pretty egg basket. Just as important, though, is preserving the basic genetics that went into all of today's beautiful "new" breeds and hybrids. Think of conserving the heritage breeds as preserving building blocks for the future. Build your house, pour your concrete, bake your bricks, but make sure that someone, somewhere, is preserving the forests and the clay fields so we have them to create new building designs for the future. That's breed conservation in a nutshell ... or a building shell?

The Dong Tao is a prime example. Like the Icelandic and Russian Orloff chickens, it's an old breed, one that may well disappear if no one takes an interest in breeding it, disappear if it stays in its tiny little pocket of the world. Sure, it needs to be in lots of flocks as individual specimens, but it also needs careful breeders to make sure it stays around for generations to come.

Okay 0 Sorry to the OP for diverting this thread. I'll get down off my soapbox, now. Good Luck finding the Dong Tao, whenever they come available. Maybe you'll be their saving grace! I certainly hope so!

 

[MROO]

I think you have that reversed. From Watch to Recovering, right?

I'm learning the difference between hatchery and birds bred to standard. I love my hatchery brahmas and the the buff laced brahmas. But I finally got to go to a poultry show and see them in person and the difference is amazing. My buff laced are closer to show quality but now I see where there needs improvement. The same with my dominiques. My ancestors used to raise that breed and I wouldn't mind working with them as well.

Yep! I can't wait to hatch a few babies! And hope that the price of wood goes back down soon...

A cheep alternative to building a new coop (Chicken Math Thwarting!) is to repurpose an old wooden playhouse. There always seems to be one waiting around "free for pickup." When my kids outgrew our playhouse, I commandeered it. The top is our main coop, the sandbox below is the run for a smaller coop box. We're about to add a drop-door to combine them. It's a GREAT coop!

 

[JacinLarkwell]

Hey, they got back to me on Facebook.

1- we told you earlier we imported eggs and hatched them . Vietnamese dragon chicken originated from Vietnam ok
2- we do have photos like the birds being updated on our page status. We also have identification of need be
3- we have been growing birds and doing poultry for over 12years now
4- we are legit and we don't pay attention to detractors Ok. We never and will never scam
5- we raise them as per their requirements and season. We do use hatcheries in some cases and the hens hatch their eggs in most cases. NB: we are legit and do look forward to a good business plan and reliable customer . We are not interested in time wasters. Thanks

Don't really know what to say about this, they didn't send any images however I did respond telling them to send a picture of their chickens with an American newspaper or something else that proves that they're here in America. Also told them about their images appearing on different accounts.

Might be nothing, but their language skills seem a bit off too. Not that it makes them liars, just... I don't know how to say it without sounding bad

 

[JacinLarkwell]

Regarding this breed there is A LOT of scam going on - would I be a breeder of this breed I would be very aware of this fact and the fact of customers reasonably being afraid of being scammed. In my opinion a reputable breeder would not just text something like the text above, and would not have a problem to show you his birds with an actual newspaper. To me it sounds like the customers who just pay get scammed, and customers like you who have questions and are sceptical get such an answer to get rid of them and not to get exposed. (But that's just my personal opinion.)

I'd be more than willing to take a picture of a bird with something to prove they're mine and the date is current, even if these birds are "cheap" for their breed. It's all about trust, people won't buy if they feel it isn't a good risk

 

[JacinLarkwell]

Alright, here's another update.

Just like we have informed you before you need to be 100% sure about our products and services. We will get you posted detailed shipping information ok . We ok only sent you pictures of our chicks ok .

Look here am sending you my drivers driver's license because you have proven to be a good client with serious purchase intentions. I expect you to be confident about our negotiations ok

I'm not sure if I can post his drivers license here, however he is from Ohio. I want your guys thoughts on this because I don't know how to feel about this anymore. So many bumps.

Too many odd "ok" placements. And again, tgere is no reason why they shouldnt send you additional pictures of the birds they have

 

[LukebotTectonic]

Too many odd "ok" placements. And again, tgere is no reason why they shouldnt send you additional pictures of the birds they have

From his drivers license I can tell he's not from here which may be the reason he doesn't speak English that well, however I did ask him one last request to take a picture of himself (now that I've seen his face) with one of his roosters or hens.