Don't feed your chickens ,Chicken

[tiki244]

Imagine

I consider chicken and fish the safest---I wont let my dog eat any other meat.

 

[patandchickens]

On the one hand there is no reason to believe that anything like a bird version of BSE/Creutzfeld-Jakob Sydrome type thing exists in chickens in particular or birds in general.

On the other hand that does not necessarily mean it could not happen (or be out there already and nobody has noticed). Plenty of things do happen for the first time, sometime, you know?

On the *other* other hand, my personal attitude is this:

Birds eat birds (and chickens eat chickens! especially, I gather, in big industry operations) much more regularly than ruminants eat ruminants, so there has certainly been ample opportunity through the millennia for any such thing to show up if it currently exists. And while it is certainly possible for some such thing to show up in the future, there is a limit to how complicated or restricted a life I'm going to lead just *in case* a million gazillion different things might someday happen. As an animal-protein supplement I feel a bit better about feeding my flock chicken -- especially chicken I grew myself -- than any OTHER commercial meat we get in this household. So, I do it on occasion.

Others can of course choose to make the opposite decision, and I think there is some sense behind that, too -- to me it is just not a clear-cut "this bad, that good" situation.

JMO,

Pat

 

[walkswithdog]

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There has not been a SINGLE reported case of trichinosis in humans for over 50 years, with the exception of people who home reared, home butchered and ate the meat raw.

Trichino cysts in meat are VISIBLE and avoidable. They also do not appear in clean, properly reared, properly butchered, pork. If it was in commercial or properly reared pork, cooking it DOES kill trichino.

Again. Misinformation, old information. Inaccurate.

My chickens get the trimmings and veggies from making chicken and dumplings, or chicken soup and love it and it's been exceedingly beneficial to chicks I've had doing poorly.

If I didn't have dogs, they'd frankly get more chicken.

I agree don't feed potentially infected spinal and brain tissue to livestock.

Chickens like fatback too. And well, anyone who has seen a flock cannabalize an injured or dead flock member should realize that they think chicken is good for chickens.

And it is.

I promise not to eat my neighbors, or feed them to my chickens. Probably.

 

[patandchickens]

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ROTFLMAO

Pat

 

[PortageGirl]

Trichinosis is an internal parasite carried by rats and mice as well as several other wild animals which prey on them, (fox, coyote etc). Completely different topic.

Modern pork has very little instances of it, years ago ground offfal was fed back to pigs raw, and that is much more likely to spread the parasite. Anything cooked to at least 150 degrees F kills the parasite.

It can be spread by eating the meat too, but it is found much less often and is not terribly common in the US. Also, I've never heard of it in poultry, though that doesn't mean it's impossible.

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ROTFLMAO

Pat

Sure!!! Didn't I see you in that movie "Fried Green Tomatoes"?

 

[redhen]

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There has not been a SINGLE reported case of trichinosis in humans for over 50 years, with the exception of people who home reared, home butchered and ate the meat raw.

Trichino cysts in meat are VISIBLE and avoidable. They also do not appear in clean, properly reared, properly butchered, pork. If it was in commercial or properly reared pork, cooking it DOES kill trichino.
I KNOW THIS...thats why i said undercooked pork....
Again. Misinformation, old information. Inaccurate.
Sorry...that statement is not true...what i stated WAS a fact..and HAS been a problem with pork in the past....
My chickens get the trimmings and veggies from making chicken and dumplings, or chicken soup and love it and it's been exceedingly beneficial to chicks I've had doing poorly.

If I didn't have dogs, they'd frankly get more chicken.

I agree don't feed potentially infected spinal and brain tissue to livestock.

Chickens like fatback too. And well, anyone who has seen a flock cannabalize an injured or dead flock member should realize that they think chicken is good for chickens.

And it is.

I promise not to eat my neighbors, or feed them to my chickens. Probably.

Never said that there have been RECENT reports of this problem.....*where did you see that i said that?* and ooh yes..it CAN happen...IF a pig is fed UNDERCOOKED pork with Trichinosis .....Trichinisis IS ingested and spread through the intestional tract....again...never said its happend recently...just was saying what other pig owners have TOLD me to beware of.....and YES, people should be aware of this....thanks, Wendy ALSO...please dont say that i gave inaccurate info....because i didnt...and i KNOW that it can be killed with proper cooking...thats WHY i stated several times....UNDERCOOKED pork...thanks,

 

[jbowyer01]

Well I learned my new lesson for today. I actually found this thread extremley interesting. You guys are great for giving out information. I love it.

 

[Buster]

I feed chicken to chickens all the time. No worries, no problems.

 

[walkswithdog]

Given that you raised what is essentially a dead, non-issue, aka hasn't happened in over half a century, in support of an already erroneous thread, it was misinformation that contributes to public perception. Many here are inexperienced.

Sure people have gotten POLIO, except polio is all but non-existent in the US in the immunized population, and I have been immunized, I actually have nothing to fear from the PAST.

Historically:
There have BEEN hazards of feeding diseased tissue to other animals. There have BEEN hazards to feeding worm infected meat to food animals and then eating them under cooked.

We are not living in the past. Good animal husbandry, good butchering practice and proper meat handling can, has and does prevent it.

Animal by products in feeds are completely cooked, also usually completely dried, and do not include spinal or brain tissue, don't include trichino infected uncooked pork.

There is no hazard to feeding healthy chicken to chickens.

We ought to be more afraid of the contamination of the vegetable markets with salmonella than this topic. Peanut butter anyone???

And I still probably won't eat the neighbors. Even if Bob is rounding out.










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There has not been a SINGLE reported case of trichinosis in humans for over 50 years, with the exception of people who home reared, home butchered and ate the meat raw.

Trichino cysts in meat are VISIBLE and avoidable. They also do not appear in clean, properly reared, properly butchered, pork. If it was in commercial or properly reared pork, cooking it DOES kill trichino.
I KNOW THIS...thats why i said undercooked pork....
Again. Misinformation, old information. Inaccurate.
Sorry...that statement is not true...what i stated WAS a fact..and HAS been a problem with pork in the past....
My chickens get the trimmings and veggies from making chicken and dumplings, or chicken soup and love it and it's been exceedingly beneficial to chicks I've had doing poorly.

If I didn't have dogs, they'd frankly get more chicken.

I agree don't feed potentially infected spinal and brain tissue to livestock.

Chickens like fatback too. And well, anyone who has seen a flock cannabalize an injured or dead flock member should realize that they think chicken is good for chickens.

And it is.

I promise not to eat my neighbors, or feed them to my chickens. Probably.

Never said that there have been RECENT reports of this problem.....*where did you see that i said that?* and ooh yes..it CAN happen...IF a pig is fed UNDERCOOKED pork with Trichinosis .....Trichinisis IS ingested and spread through the intestional tract....again...never said its happend recently...just was saying what other pig owners have TOLD me to beware of.....and YES, people should be aware of this....thanks, Wendy ALSO...please dont say that i gave inaccurate info....because i didnt...and i KNOW that it can be killed with proper cooking...thats WHY i stated several times....UNDERCOOKED pork...thanks,

 

[redhen]

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Never said that there have been RECENT reports of this problem.....*where did you see that i said that?* and ooh yes..it CAN happen...IF a pig is fed UNDERCOOKED pork with Trichinosis .....Trichinisis IS ingested and spread through the intestional tract....again...never said its happend recently...just was saying what other pig owners have TOLD me to beware of.....and YES, people should be aware of this....thanks, Wendy ALSO...please dont say that i gave inaccurate info....because i didnt...and i KNOW that it can be killed with proper cooking...thats WHY i stated several times....UNDERCOOKED pork...thanks,

AND who exactly says it hasent happend once in half a century???...it HAS happend...maybe not with commercial pork...but CERTANILY with small farms....i'm not going to argue with you..you seem to know it all already....good luck...feed your pigs raw pork....