Don't "kill" the messenger

[eggzettera]

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Because they are a "mutt" it has no "standard" and egg laying will be specific to that particular bird, same as their off spring......certain breeds are good egg layers, others not so because its a mutt.....who knows....

 

[patandchickens]

By the way, it is quite possible that *sometimes* the answer to

Why do the people get so angry when they are told they do not have ameraucanas?????

is the same as the answer to why the market price of a young paint draft-cross horse is about $1200 whereas the exact same horse if it is papered as a Gypsy Vanner would add an extra zero; and stuff like that

Pat, raised to believe that manufacturers' names should be concealed on the inside labels of clothing, but judging from the difficulty of finding stuff in thrift stores that does not proclaim "ROOTS" or "TOMMY HILFIGER" or whatever on the front of it, apparently part of a very small minority in the modern world

 

[pips&peeps]

Susan,

When I see someone trying to sell Easter Eggers as Ameraucanas or "Purebred" Ameraucanas, I feel I must say something....

I usually do not say something unless I see a picture of the person's birds being advertised. Green legs and assorted color patterns give it away.

And according to the information from the early breeders of the Ameraucana Breeders Club, there is no proof that there was any araucana blood used to make ameraucanas in the early years.

Ameraucanas just mongrels produced by crossing Araucanas with other breeds of domestic chickens?

As far as can be determined no tufted-rumpless fowl were used to create any of the eight recognized varieties of Ameraucanas. Ameraucana bantams and Ameraucana large fowl are standard breeds. They have specific requirements with regard to shape, weights, coloring, comb, earlobes, and so on. While it is true that commercial hatcheries continue to cash in on crossbred mongrels by advertising them as Araucanas or Ameraucanas, it takes much more than eggshell color to make a true breed.

I would also like to add that I have never had a chick hatch out that was a "non-standard" color except for splash. Blue splash and splash wheaten are the exception to the rule.

There were some chicks the first year, when I first started breeding and that I had purchased with some gold, silver or red in the hackles and they were culled. I have not had any problems since. I don't consider those non standard colors though.​

 

[Cuban Longtails]

Honestly... if anyone did any research they would know what they have. Most people go off of what a hatchery told them or the person that sold the eggs, chicks, or birds.

That's usually why I always, always ask for pictures of the birds. I have specific breeds in mind and I want those breeds only, not what someone is either knowingly or unknowingly trying to pawn off on people as something it's not.

It's like telling someone, sorry that's not a cucko marans, it's a barred rock. Or that's not a dominique, it's a barred rock. That's not a RIR, it's a production red or ISA red. They get mad because they don't want to believe they are in the wrong with what they've believed all along.

I have easter eggers that are muffed and bearded, pea combed, they have slate colored legs, and lay green eggs. Their coloring does not fall under the breed standard for Ameraucanas (It's on the ameraucana website if anyone wants to look: http://www.ameraucana.org/ ) and I would never in my right mind try to advertise them as such. I've researched them because I used to not know the difference, or that there even was one (or two, or three).

 

[eggzettera]

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Could not agree more, they should be paying me for advertising.....

 

[Wooden_Pony]

Sorry BlueBloomers, I did not word that clearly...

...what I mean is, I would like some EEs someday *but only from a line that lays well* (there seems to be substantial variation, some people have EEs that clock out an egg most days, others much less than that).

Better?

Pat

Well then I guess I scored with my Ideal EE's

I learned something new today about EE's not all are good layers interesting.

Because they are a "mutt" it has no "standard" and egg laying will be specific to that particular bird, same as their off spring......certain breeds are good egg layers, others not so because its a mutt.....who knows....

That makes sense MeanQueenNadine thank you!

 

[pips&peeps]

I like the idea of coming up with a new name for EE's. Maybe it would be something fun to start.

I started with EE's and they are great layers and pets!

 

[FlightsofFancy]

You know....SPEAK UP! If they can't handle your truth...that's their problem. I am so sick of people with their sensitivities. Saying "You offened me!" It's all how the person takes it and it's not your problem...it's theirs.
As far as Ameraucans go we need people to speak up! There is alot of misinformed people out there...breeders included and they are misrepresenting themselves and the breed. Reputable breeders NEED to continue to speak up.
I gotcha back!!

**I am passionate about this....can you tell?

 

[equine chick]

There is a breeder near me that advertises americaunas then saystheyare easter eggers. She says they are the same thing, which jean I know they are not. I have easter eggers and have a few americauna eggs gotten from a certified breeder under the americauna association. I still love my easter eggers, they give me good eggs for breakfast but I will just hatch from my purebreds if I have afew from this hatch that make it.

 

[eggzettera]

It really is the Hatchery's fault for this, I got mine EE from the Feed Store and the girl kept correcting me when I called them EE's. They came labeled from the hatchery that way, so it must be true. The girl is just passing on bad info, the hatcheries however are in the business & should know better - its just plain ole false advertising.