Double Lacing

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Do you mean Sir John Saunders Sebright?

Most likely the reason that the Silver Laced Wyandotte was once known as the "American Sebright" and "Sebright Cochin was do to the feather pattern (Black Lacing on a White feather)

The Bantam Sebright (Sebright Jungle Fowl) got is pattern from the Polish.
Sebrights were developed by Sir John Saunders Sebright,Bart., early in the 1800's, and is a true bantam only breed.After the death of Sir John an Article appeared in the Journal of Horticulture "It was about the year 1800 that the late Sir John Sebright first began to fashion the Sebright Bantam. The cross was between some common Bantams and the Polish fowl. These were bred in-and-in until the required marking and size were secured. Sir John then accidentally found a short-tailed Bantam cock in the country when he was traveling. This short-tailed bird he in-bred with his newly-manufactured. Bantams, thereby giving their progeny the present form of the short tail."

In thePoultry Chronicle it is stated that Sir John obtained a buff-coloured Bantam hen at Norwich ; she was very small indeed, with clear slate- coloured legs. On the same journey he purchased a cock rather inclined to red in colour, destitute of sickle-feathers, with a hen-like hackle ; and also, at Watford, a small hen resembling a Golden Hamburgh. He afterwards had a white cockerel from the Zoological Gardens, by which he made his Silvers. This description of the origin refers back before the laced marking was achieved. They were then known as Pheasant Bantams.

Again in the Poultry Chronicle, 1855

'The Sebright Bantam Club was formed some forty years ago by the late Sir John S. Sebright and several other fanciers, who endeavored, if possible, to obtain the beautiful plumage of the Polish fowl on as small specimens as could be. They (the late Sir John, the late Mr. Stevens, the late Mr. Hollingsworth, and Mr. Garlc, who still survives)began their labors by selecting the best kinds for their purpose of the Polish, and, by judiciously crossing them with Bantams, gradually obtained their end. They had to work out the top-knots,get rid of the hackles and long tail-feathers, and reduce the size ; retaining as much as possible the truly impertinent character of the Bantam. This has been most successfully accomplished, but not without the occasional recrossing with the Black Bantam, for the constant breeding in-and-in has often brought the birds to a stand-still."

Now I havent found much about the Hamburg but here is what I could find.

The Hamburgh is a very old race of domesticated poultry. The name of the breed is German, but the origin is Dutch. They were originally Classified among the Continental breeds, although, they owe their present shape and color qualities to the English fanciers, who, over a century ago, began the work of refining the "pheasant fowls" of that period into modern Hamburgs. The Black and Spangled varieties were evolved in England; the Penciled varieties came from Holland via Hamburg, Germany. The varieties of Hamburgh have been known under many names; Moonies , Pheasant , Bolton Grey , Bolton Bay, Creoles,Crees, Chittepratts, and Moss. A writer from the early 1700`s (Thomas Sutlief, 1702) mentions them in regard to Lancaster , where they referred to them as Black Pheasant, and the birds had white ears and flat combs. As an ornamental non-sitting fowl, they are good layers of white shelled eggs. Their skin color is white.

Above from North American Hamburg Society.

Chris
 
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This cockerel is a lakenvelder bantam (landfow type). The hackle and tailcolor is "Platinum" = 1 dose Dun(chocolate)+1 dose Blue. This was not photoshopped. I asked Sigrid van Dort (chickencolours.com) if she could replace the silver/white bodycolor with the bodycolor of vorwerkbantam, the gold/red lakenvelder sister breed. She is great by the way.

2. Isn't the Seabright a product of Sri Lanka X Grey JF hybrid females bred to bantams? I understand that when you cross those two wild species and then pair the siblings together the hybrid progeny are henny feathered and tiny. Is it possible the single lacing is derived of one of the JF species?

Do you have a reference of this?
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hamburgh E^R co+/co+ Db/Db Pg/Pg Ml/Ml hf+ (spangled)
sebright E^R Co/Co Db/Db Pg/Pg Ml/Ml Hf (single laced incl. tail, henny feathered)
polish E^R Co/Co Db/Db Pg/Pg Ml/Ml hf+ (single laced incl. tail)
wyandotte e^b Co/Co db+/db+ Pg/Pg Ml/Ml (single laced, solid tail)​
 
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This cockerel is a lakenvelder bantam (landfow type). The hackle and tailcolor is "Platinum" = 1 dose Dun(chocolate)+1 dose Blue. This was not photoshopped. I asked Sigrid van Dort (chickencolours.com) if she could replace the silver/white bodycolor with the bodycolor of vorwerkbantam, the gold/red lakenvelder sister breed. She is great by the way.

2. Isn't the Seabright a product of Sri Lanka X Grey JF hybrid females bred to bantams? I understand that when you cross those two wild species and then pair the siblings together the hybrid progeny are henny feathered and tiny. Is it possible the single lacing is derived of one of the JF species?

Do you have a reference of this?
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hamburgh E^R co+/co+ Db/Db Pg/Pg Ml/Ml hf+ (spangled)
sebright E^R Co/Co Db/Db Pg/Pg Ml/Ml Hf (single laced incl. tail, henny feathered)
polish E^R Co/Co Db/Db Pg/Pg Ml/Ml hf+ (single laced incl. tail)
wyandotte e^b Co/Co db+/db+ Pg/Pg Ml/Ml (single laced, solid tail)​

Thank you Henk.

Yes I do have references and will post them tomorrow- keep putting this off -


I"m trying to encourage everyone to participate by contributing their ideas and photographs. If you are reading this and you know of Any of the breeds or colour patterns being discussed here, please post some photos so that everyone is on the same page.
 
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Henk69.... that bird
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WOW.... (that's all I got!)

Not to jack the thread but Henk69... I have seen in the past amazing examples of you incredible colored birds... would you consider starting a post with a "showcase" of some of your Masterpieces??? I am blown away by the colors you paint on to the Lakenvelders... truely breathtaking... We in the U.S. do not have access to all the available genetic but I love to oggle from afar.
 
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Yes, resistance is futile!

Agreed! That bird is AMAZING!!!!!! When you posted that picture a few days ago Henk, I was floored! That has to be the prettiest bird I have ever seen!
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Thank you Resolution for starting this thread....I am a huge fan of double laced birds. I have my first pair of Barnevelders that I am patiently waiting to work with if the girl ever blesses me with an egg. Laced birds are just something to behold! Waiting patiently for more laced bird photos to pop up on this thread and sitting on the edge of my seat waiting to read all the wonderful information that is being offered at this table.
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The Silver Barnevelders are stunning
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I have some F1 Blue laced crosses and I'm trying to develop some Blue laced Barnevelders. The second generation is going in the bator in a week or two
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A few show some double lacing and hopefully the next generation will have better type and lacing
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