Drowned goose heartbreak

nightowl223

Crowing
12 Years
Last year I had to admit defeat and agree I had 2 ganders. This spring I got 2 African goslings, and raised them with love. They were Messy ( originally named Mesi, an African name meaning Water Woman, but she was a he), a gander, and Bem (unisex African name meaning Peace), who developed into a beautiful goose.

They had been successfully introduced to my remaining gander (one of them, Thunder, had turned up missing a month ago - I was so upset over that!) Everything was going fine! Bem had fallen in love with the older gander, Lightning, and followed him around everywhere.

Messy followed, too, a bit less enthusiastically, but not wanting to be left behind. I was hunting for another goose or two, to even out the genders, but hadn't yet been successful. I knew everyone would be happier that way! Still, Bem was the sweetest little lady! She would come "talk" to me every time she saw me. ❤ Such a darling!

Well... here's the hard part to talk about. I hadn't even written about this except a brief post on Facebook, which was painful enough, with people that weren't goose-oriented or even featherbaby oriented.

November 7th, my adult son went out to check everyone's water and such, and... he found Bem dead, floating in the pond we've made for them. The males standing nearby. I couldn't do it, but my husband went out and helped check her over, for some possible explanation... no injuries visible, no reason for her to get trapped there, nothing!!

The only reason for death I can think of is that the ganders had been fighting over her in the water. Either that or a freak heart attack or stroke, and how possible would that be?!

I've been crushed. Just crushed! Good grief, in less than a year I've lost my mother (devastated me - I still am not over that), my dear cat Puff that I'd had her whole 16 years, a favorite Banty Cochin hen, all of my Light Brahma hens (those from *expletives* raccoons), my gander Thunder that I'd handraised, and my dear, beloved LGD Buddy (from aggressive metastatic bone cancer)... and now my sweet Bem?!? I am terrified to ask what next!

Anyway, I thought maybe you could suggest any other thing that could have killed her, or let me know if you think I'm correct. And advise me on whether I should separate the males, get rid of at least the eldest - which would almost certainly have been the main aggressor - or any other suggestions.

I've been depressed lately and hardly been online, but I will try to check this regularly. Seriously, if I dont answer right away, please don't think I've abandoned the post!

Thank you in advance.
 
I have seen many people on here saying that drakes will drown a duck if there are too many drakes, they breed in water and can push her under water and hold her there too long. I would assume that geese are the same. I would say your boys should be ok together, but if you have 3 males, probably get at least 3 and probably better 6 females for them if you want them to have girls.
 
I have no knowledge to share.
Just some hugs.
:hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs

I've yet to understand why so much loss can be heaped upon a kind and gentle person.
I am deeply sorry for your repeated losses.
I hope the BYC community helps you find answers and gives you encouragement to devise a plan that will bring a bright spot into your life.
 
I have seen many people on here saying that drakes will drown a duck if there are too many drakes, they breed in water and can push her under water and hold her there too long. I would assume that geese are the same. I would say your boys should be ok together, but if you have 3 males, probably get at least 3 and probably better 6 females for them if you want them to have girls.

I haven't had geese, but I have had ducks, and I agree. I think it will be okay having only males, but you should get 3-6 females if you still want females. I'm so sorry for you loss... we've lost all of our hand raised ducks due to predators and haven't been able to get ducks since... :hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs:rant:hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs
 
Oh my, I am so sorry for your losses!

I think,Unfortentally your males may have killed her.

If you need to talk, rant or have a shoulder to cry on, pleasePM me, I will always be here to talk, even if I don't get back right away :hugs
 
Thank you all for your kindness. It means a lot to me. I'm an emotional wreck right now, with it coming up on the first anniversary of Mom's passing in 25 days. So any support I get, from anywhere, is a godsend.

The third male never showed back up after going missing. We recently spotted a fox less than a mile from the house, so that may be what happened to Thunder. Which means I now have only 2 males. I am looking for adult females, even to trade one for one, but haven't managed to get that lucky yet.

The other two have settled in to an armistice, with no girls to show off for. Luckily, they have gotten very used to being locked up safely for overnight hours, and even during the day when we aren't here. That at least make a me feel they're safer. Especially until the LGD puppy Link gets old enough to be able to take over (the cancer victim) Buddy's guarding duties.

Wish me luck finding any ladies for my ganders, and to get through this upcoming holiday season - had I only known last Thanksgiving was Mom's last... Well, if wishes were horses, and all that. Again, thank you all for your kindness. Guess I'm sounding pretty needy right now, but every kind word truly helps.
 
Last year I had to admit defeat and agree I had 2 ganders. This spring I got 2 African goslings, and raised them with love. They were Messy ( originally named Mesi, an African name meaning Water Woman, but she was a he), a gander, and Bem (unisex African name meaning Peace), who developed into a beautiful goose.

They had been successfully introduced to my remaining gander (one of them, Thunder, had turned up missing a month ago - I was so upset over that!) Everything was going fine! Bem had fallen in love with the older gander, Lightning, and followed him around everywhere.

Messy followed, too, a bit less enthusiastically, but not wanting to be left behind. I was hunting for another goose or two, to even out the genders, but hadn't yet been successful. I knew everyone would be happier that way! Still, Bem was the sweetest little lady! She would come "talk" to me every time she saw me. ❤ Such a darling!

Well... here's the hard part to talk about. I hadn't even written about this except a brief post on Facebook, which was painful enough, with people that weren't goose-oriented or even featherbaby oriented.

November 7th, my adult son went out to check everyone's water and such, and... he found Bem dead, floating in the pond we've made for them. The males standing nearby. I couldn't do it, but my husband went out and helped check her over, for some possible explanation... no injuries visible, no reason for her to get trapped there, nothing!!

The only reason for death I can think of is that the ganders had been fighting over her in the water. Either that or a freak heart attack or stroke, and how possible would that be?!

I've been crushed. Just crushed! Good grief, in less than a year I've lost my mother (devastated me - I still am not over that), my dear cat Puff that I'd had her whole 16 years, a favorite Banty Cochin hen, all of my Light Brahma hens (those from *expletives* raccoons), my gander Thunder that I'd handraised, and my dear, beloved LGD Buddy (from aggressive metastatic bone cancer)... and now my sweet Bem?!? I am terrified to ask what next!

Anyway, I thought maybe you could suggest any other thing that could have killed her, or let me know if you think I'm correct. And advise me on whether I should separate the males, get rid of at least the eldest - which would almost certainly have been the main aggressor - or any other suggestions.

I've been depressed lately and hardly been online, but I will try to check this regularly. Seriously, if I dont answer right away, please don't think I've abandoned the post!

Thank you in advance.
I wish the best for you and hope you can find peace in all of your loss. i have seen several of my chickens drown and i have also seen female geese held under water very aggressively during mating. i would assume she was drown by the male during competitive mating. i hope you can find another girl goose. i too am looking for another female goose. if you have any luck please let me know. goodluck and my heart goes out to you. dtay strong.
 
I feel for you nightowl223 I lost all of my ducks except three to raccoons. I could not fix the coop faster enough . I decide no more ducks. I have geese they are more aggressive and stick together. It is heartbreaking . things will get better.
 

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