D'uccle Thread

[Doug the Chicken Man]

thanks.

 

[Megs]

ive got 10 in the incubator due tomorrow, 2 are out several are started, and 10 look good to hatch

will post photos, probably mille fleur but possibly some porcelain.

 

[teddiliza]

I also have 10 due midweek to hatch! All porcelains.

 

[lilcrow]

Doug, from the looks of the calculator the porcelain color is pretty easy to screw up. If you breed it to lavender, you get lavender split to mottled......????? go figure. If you breed it to Millie Fleur you get Millie Fleur split to Lavender and if you breed it to Blue Millie Fleur, same thing only Blue Millie Fleur. That autosomal gene must be hard to hold on to, and easy to breed out.
I thought you should be able to breed lavender to Millie Fleur and get Porcelain, but it doesn't appear to be that simple.

I haven't taken the breedings out too many more generations yet as I've been too consumed right now with the move I'm involved with and trying to get settled in with my birds. I'm guessing that after the correct breeding of several generations, it would be possible to get porcelain.
What we really need is a genetics specialist like Blackdotte to consult with, but I fear we may not be up to the challenge. He operates on a whole 'nother level. We could try to open a new thread, specifically on d'Uccle color genetics and ask him if he would come help us out. Having a thread just on color might give it a little more heft. There are other really good specialists that get on here and give a wealth of information on genetics, even Henk the guy that developed the calculator gets on here at times, but you've got to put on your running shoes, and stay OPEN, don't shoot off your mouth like I have in the past. My ignorance has made an "A double S" out of me and it's terribly embarrassing. Actually, the more I write about this and think about it, the more interesting and exciting it gets to me. I love my d'Uccle and I've recently added the blue Millie Fleur and Lavender to my flock. I've got some really beautiful Millie Fleur and that's not even counting the new ones that JUST hatched from Lynne in California.
I've got 4 little "California Chicks."

I have two Millie Fleur hens with exceptional dispositions and conformation to boot, so I know they have a lot to contribute to the breed. If they are bred right they can improve the other varieties, but the skill is in breeding them right. That is what I am committed to doing, I just need the guidance to do so.
If you're interested let's start a color thread and see what we can stir up on this fascinating topic. We could call it quite simply, d'Uccle color genetics.

 

[wegotchickens]

I would love a thread on d'Uccle color genetics.

I have bred porcelain x lav and got poor results. But since I know nothing of these birds parentage I can't say what is playing into my results. That's very frustrating!

This fall I plan to breed my perfect mille roo over the lav and butterscotch pullets and see what I get from those crossings. I KNOW his heritage, and if he breeds with the birds I have bred here, then I can at least know 75% of the genetics in play.

 

[lilcrow]

Well, I'll go ahead and get it started then. I'm very curious about your Butterscotch, do you have any pictures of adults? I'd love to see them. I'm wondering if they're anything close to the citrine?

 

[lilcrow]

OK, there is a new thread titled, "d'Uccle color genetics." If anyone sees anything I should have said differently, please feel free to add or rephrase anything.

 

[wegotchickens]

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I do have pics but I have to get them downloaded.
They are not near citrine at all.
The mother is a buff mottled, the father is a poor porcelain with a LOT of straw in him. The chicks are coming in much more evenly buff and have lost a lot of mottling. I actually have a lovely cream pullet that seems fairly even in color. The other pullets are mostly gold with just a little white trim. The cockeral is more white than buff, but has some lovely dark gold markings developing. He is just gorgeous and will replace the porcelain roo as soon as he matures enough for breeding! I could sit and watch him for hours. I sure hope he lives up to his current potential! The oldest butters are 9 weeks old.

I don't think they have that luminous citrine sheen in them at all but I'll certainly watch for it

or even lemon would be lovely.

My goal is a smooth even gold that matches the even color of my lavenders. Then I'll have 'silver and gold' chickens.

 

[lilcrow]

Sounds like fascinating grist for the d'Uccle color genetics mill.

 

[stormylady]

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I really like King Arthur and Domino, and lemondrop Wow too cool.