D'uccle Thread

[wegotchickens]

Awww! I'm so sorry AC!

 

[acid_chipmunk]

Thanks guys.

Cyn, I like the new avatar!

 

[GypsyChic]

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So very sorry AC...was she just a weaker baby than the other? That's a shame hun

 

[GypsyChic]

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Yes, I believe a chance of sex-link w/silver only.
I've not been successful predicting from henks either, but, it's usually due to my DILUTED factors and that's what complicates everything for me.
Believe it or not, both lemon and silver carry very "similar" genetics, not EXACT, but similar...or so that's been the case with my exp so far. Both Silver & Lemon roos over both porc, mottled and whites, plus very VERY light millie gals who seems to have the genetics of both colors. So, that's where I'm at right now. I'll get my breeding records out and scan into a PM for you. LOL not saying you will ever be able to decifer it,

but maybe it will be of some help.

AUBREY, jump in here hun and help with discription of genetics. Your much better at "wording" things than I am

Misty, sorry havent been on this one in a while, yall add to many pages to quick to it, LOL

Yall are right, the silver and lemon are very similar, all they are is millie fluers, one having the cream gene, one having a silver gene (instead of the normal gold)
Other than that, they are just millie fluers.

I havent had the pleasure of working with either in my d'anvers just yet, but am half way there on my silvers.
The silver is much harder to finish to me than the cream.
Cream bred to a millie will give you all millies, which will be split to lemon cream.
Back breed those, and you will get 50% lemon millies and 50% millies. Froim there, they are done.

Same cant be said with the silvers, from the programs I have run it seems that yes hens are a much more common out come than roos on that color.
Depending on what you use, it can take years. I have been using my silver quail over the millies and should have some correct ones this year after 1 more cross.
Anything with the silver gene can beused to get them though, silver duckwings would be the best though.

Hecks calculator is spot on on every single cross I have used though, you can easily predict your out come, and for me with over 30 colors it has been 99% accurate so far.
For the diluters, you just have to add them in. Like for silver millies, punch in millies, then go down to the silver gene. It will be showing GOLD, click on it, it will give you the option for the silver, once you have it in, the calculation on your various crosses will show you the accurate out come of them.

Same with the lemons, whic they are actually on there now, listed as lemon porcelain. But you can use any color on there, add the lemon "cream " gene to it, and go on with your calculation.

I ran various crosses of millie x silver millie, silver millie x cream millie, millie x cream...there were a lot of various results, but the easiest was the lemon to millie, Like I said they will just all be lemon splits all the time.

The silver crossed produced yes mainly pullets. So there MAY be some for of sex link there, but I doubt it.
Contine to cross the silver pullets over the millie or lemon males you get and they'll eventuall pop up.
Once you have a male, you're good to go.

Like I said, I have done them just yet, but am working on the silver, and with Misty's help the cream will be started this year.
Once I get some of my own, I can tell yall a little more about them.

Good luck to all working on both!

Thanks Aubrey, I appreciate you coming to the rescue

I have the silver roo now, which I thought was a pullet, but have some older babies I will put him with, as well as the lemons into their group soon. Will also have enough lemons to send you soon as it warms up a bit more. Maybe we can just SWAP and help us both out

 

[acid_chipmunk]

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So very sorry AC...was she just a weaker baby than the other? That's a shame hun

That's what I am thinking. The black one is a fast little bugger. Runs around all the time and is so cute.

 

[speckledhen]

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Thanks! That's my sweet 4 yr old blue Orp boy. Cetawin says he's PERFECT! (must be capitalized with an exclamation point)and she was having a hard time with major dental work, so I changed it for her.

All the genetics talk about silver and cream is like a different language to me, LOL.

 

[acid_chipmunk]

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Thanks! That's my sweet 4 yr old blue Orp boy. Cetawin says he's PERFECT! (must be capitalized with an exclamation point)and she was having a hard time with major dental work, so I changed it for her.

All the genetics talk about silver and cream is like a different language to me, LOL.

I had to look twice this morning and make sure it really was you who posted! Seeing him confused me.

I agree about the genetics. I don't get any of it.

 

[GypsyChic]

AC, hows the black chicks beard and toe feathering? WGC said hers are sparce (sp) so I wanted to ask you too. OH, forgot to ask is it solid black or black w/white?

 

[acid_chipmunk]

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Toe feathering is good. I'll have to look at the beard again after work. It is black with a white belly.

 

[Carolynspeeps]

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Toe feathering is good. I'll have to look at the beard again after work. It is black with a white belly.

Not trying to cut in line

....my little black chick has great foot/leg feathering, but not much in the beard department. The yellow chick has more beard and sparce foot/leg. Hope that helps.