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Misty, sorry havent been on this one in a while, yall add to many pages to quick to it, LOL
Yall are right, the silver and lemon are very similar, all they are is millie fluers, one having the cream gene, one having a silver gene (instead of the normal gold)
Other than that, they are just millie fluers.
I havent had the pleasure of working with either in my d'anvers just yet, but am half way there on my silvers.
The silver is much harder to finish to me than the cream.
Cream bred to a millie will give you all millies, which will be split to lemon cream.
Back breed those, and you will get 50% lemon millies and 50% millies. Froim there, they are done.
Same cant be said with the silvers, from the programs I have run it seems that yes hens are a much more common out come than roos on that color.
Depending on what you use, it can take years. I have been using my silver quail over the millies and should have some correct ones this year after 1 more cross.
Anything with the silver gene can beused to get them though, silver duckwings would be the best though.
Hecks calculator is spot on on every single cross I have used though, you can easily predict your out come, and for me with over 30 colors it has been 99% accurate so far.
For the diluters, you just have to add them in. Like for silver millies, punch in millies, then go down to the silver gene. It will be showing GOLD, click on it, it will give you the option for the silver, once you have it in, the calculation on your various crosses will show you the accurate out come of them.
Same with the lemons, whic they are actually on there now, listed as lemon porcelain. But you can use any color on there, add the lemon "cream " gene to it, and go on with your calculation.
I ran various crosses of millie x silver millie, silver millie x cream millie, millie x cream...there were a lot of various results, but the easiest was the lemon to millie, Like I said they will just all be lemon splits all the time.
The silver crossed produced yes mainly pullets. So there MAY be some for of sex link there, but I doubt it.
Contine to cross the silver pullets over the millie or lemon males you get and they'll eventuall pop up.
Once you have a male, you're good to go.
Like I said, I have done them just yet, but am working on the silver, and with Misty's help the cream will be started this year.
Once I get some of my own, I can tell yall a little more about them.
Good luck to all working on both!
Thanks Aubrey, I appreciate you coming to the rescue
I have the silver roo now, which I thought was a pullet, but have some older babies I will put him with, as well as the lemons into their group soon. Will also have enough lemons to send you soon as it warms up a bit more. Maybe we can just SWAP and help us both out
That'll work with me.
If you did get a male silver, you've got them whipped, breed him to normal millies, I wouldnt put him to cream, that'll be a usless gene for him, but off normals you should easily get some pullets off them the first time
Good luck, They must have come from Ron Tallents stock, he's the only one I know of with silver millies ?