Ducks eating other ducks feather

[Kiki]

yes its called 8%, #8, or 8 way... now tell me how much protein is in 8 way scratch grain... I have said this before too but yall cant seem to read those comments. Just pull from PARTS you want to pull from ignoring the rest and getting WRONG (oh so wrong information) I never said the #8 scratch grain was 8% PROTEIN!!!!! and yall have such little class you KEEP attacking me for being tired of continuing to clarify this over and over and over again. Keep making assumption. Keep attacking me for what you dont know and ASSume. I had horses too... we feed sweet 12. What does the 12 mean it that? Does it mean protein like you all assumed in #8, 8%, 8 way scratch?

The number 12 in a horse sweet feed means 12% protein.


No one is attacking you.

8% protein for ducks is not good enough.
No matter if it is a feed, a treat, or a scratch grain.
8% is not good enough.
Repeat after me... 8% protein is not good enough.


Neither is 12% protein.

 

[Member 630274]

The number 12 in a horse sweet feed means 12% protein.


No one is attacking you.

8% protein for ducks is not good enough.
No matter if it is a feed, a treat, or a scratch grain.
8% is not good enough.
Repeat after me... 8% protein is not good enough.


Neither is 12% protein.

Ok I did ask about horse feed because I know about horse feed. I dont know about ducks which is why I joined and asked about the feather eating. I didnt even know why they were eating feathers before reading up on here. Google couldnt answer. I said several times that their feed says 12% protein. I also said I give 8% treats to make up the difference of what Im reading is the 15% recommended protein for ducks. If I thought 12% was enough I wouldnt be giving them something extra with more protein in it.
and yes sarcastic remarks repeatedly and belittling comments especially with false info is attacking someone. Why would you follow me if Im so rude? I was rude. I was trying to be rude. I'd had and have had enough of the comments from people harrassing me about 8% protein and 12% protein not being enough and nore comments a lot more rude than that. I dont give them just 12% nor just 8%... I feel that I have tried cery hard to explain that multiple times but no one seems to get what "12% protein listed on their feed and 8% in their treats" meant. At this point I do t even care what anyone who has made off handed comments to me has to say.

 

[ShrekDawg]

Ok I did ask about horse feed because I know about horse feed. I dont know about ducks which is why I joined and asked about the feather eating. I didnt even know why they were eating feathers before reading up on here. Google couldnt answer. I said several times that their feed says 12% protein. I also said I give 8% treats to make up the difference of what Im reading is the 15% recommended protein for ducks. If I thought 12% was enough I wouldnt be giving them something extra with more protein in it.
and yes sarcastic remarks repeatedly and belittling comments especially with false info is attacking someone. Why would you follow me if Im so rude? I was rude. I was trying to be rude. I'd had and have had enough of the comments from people harrassing me about 8% protein and 12% protein not being enough and nore comments a lot more rude than that. I dont give them just 12% nor just 8%... I feel that I have tried cery hard to explain that multiple times but no one seems to get what "12% protein listed on their feed and 8% in their treats" meant. At this point I do t even care what anyone who has made off handed comments to me has to say.

I’m sorry you feel that people have been rude to you but honestly I’m sure they are just trying to help you and your birds and are not meaning to be. I know you love them but adding treats does not raise the protein or help. It just unbalances the feed. Treats should be no more than 10% of the diet and some don’t even feed them at all. Even this Purina duck feed is 19% and Flockraiser which a lot of people feed is 20%. Not sure where you got the 15 number but it’s not accurate and honestly it would be a lot better if you could just buy either of these balanced feeds rather than adding stuff. I haven’t read the whole thread so apologies if it’s already been said or if anyone upset you.

https://www.purinamills.com/chicken-feed/products/detail/purina-duck-feed-pellets

https://www.purinamills.com/chicken-feed/products/detail/purina-flock-raiser-crumbles

 

[Kiki]

Ok I did ask about horse feed because I know about horse feed. I dont know about ducks which is why I joined and asked about the feather eating. I didnt even know why they were eating feathers before reading up on here. Google couldnt answer. I said several times that their feed says 12% protein. I also said I give 8% treats to make up the difference of what Im reading is the 15% recommended protein for ducks. If I thought 12% was enough I wouldnt be giving them something extra with more protein in it.
and yes sarcastic remarks repeatedly and belittling comments especially with false info is attacking someone. Why would you follow me if Im so rude? I was rude. I was trying to be rude. I'd had and have had enough of the comments from people harrassing me about 8% protein and 12% protein not being enough and nore comments a lot more rude than that. I dont give them just 12% nor just 8%... I feel that I have tried cery hard to explain that multiple times but no one seems to get what "12% protein listed on their feed and 8% in their treats" meant. At this point I do t even care what anyone who has made off handed comments to me has to say.

You're completely misunderstanding a couple of things.


The first being that 12% protein is not good enough.
By you offering them an 8% protein treat it dilutes the 12% protein feed


I'm going to try and explain things one at a time.

First do you understand what I just said above?

 

[Member 630274]

I’m sorry you feel that people have been rude to you but honestly I’m sure they are just trying to help you and your birds and are not meaning to be. I know you love them but adding treats does not raise the protein or help. It just unbalances the feed. Treats should be no more than 10% of the diet and some don’t even feed them at all. Even this Purina duck feed is 19% and Flockraiser which a lot of people feed is 20%. Not sure where you got the 15 number but it’s not accurate and honestly it would be a lot better if you could just buy either of these balanced feeds rather than adding stuff. I haven’t read the whole thread so apologies if it’s already been said or if anyone upset you.

https://www.purinamills.com/chicken-feed/products/detail/purina-duck-feed-pellets

https://www.purinamills.com/chicken-feed/products/detail/purina-flock-raiser-crumbles

its the nicest and most informative comment in a While ty

 

[Member 630274]

You're completely misunderstanding a couple of things.


The first being that 12% protein is not good enough.
By you offering them an 8% protein treat it dilutes the 12% protein feed


I'm going to try and explain things one at a time.

First do you understand what I just said above?

How does giving feed all the time and giving them treats on top dilute the protein?

 

[Kiki]

You're completely misunderstanding a couple of things.


The first being that 12% protein is not good enough.
By you offering them an 8% protein treat it dilutes the 12% protein feed


I'm going to try and explain things one at a time.

First do you understand what I just said above?

If you understand this let me know and I'll move on.

If you do not understand this let me know and I will try to explain it in a different way but you have to understand this in order to move on.

 

[Kiki]

How does giving feed all the time and giving them treats on top dilute the protein?

If you are giving treats they are not filling up on the complete balanced feed.
They don't have enough room in their crop to eat the complete balanced feed because it is full of treats.

Does this make sense?


If you only fed the 12% protein feed and zero treats that would still not be good enough.

 

[Member 630274]

If you are giving treats they are not filling up on the complete balanced feed.
They don't have enough room in their crop to eat the complete balanced feed because it is full of treats.

Does this make sense?


If you only fed the 12% protein feed and zero treats that would still not be good enough.

it does but they only get 2-4 pea sized balls a day OR 1 bag if peas (like 12 oz) split between all 5 in a whole day. I didnt think it would make that big of a difference.

 

[Kiki]

Let's play a little game.

Imagine a plate sitting in front of you.
Imagine that one hamburger is what you must eat in order to get a balanced diet for yourself.

You must eat that whole hamburger everyday.


Imagine on that plate that there is a hamburger a big fat piece of cake and a whole bunch of french fries.
Just pretend that you really like cake and french fries.

Remember you must eat that hamburger every single day the whole thing or you will be extremely sick.

Imagine that every day you chose to eat the whole cake and a little bit of fries and one bite of the hamburger.

Now since you're only eating the cake and a little bit of french fries and one bite of hamburger you're not getting a balanced diet so you're getting sicker each day.

All you have to do is eat that damn hamburger every single day And you won't be sick.


Now imagine the hamburger is an appropriate complete balanced pelleted or crumbled duck food.
The 8% treat, the scratch grains, table scraps... All the other crap is just that it's cake and french fries and it is not good to be eating everyday.