EDUCATIONAL INCUBATION & HATCHING CHAT THREAD, w/ Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs

[Akrnaf2]

I hope I get a good hatch

Just remember. chicks from hatcheries sell for about $3 a chick and they are not mixes. So I would expect for you to get $1.50-$2.00 a chick for straight run mixed breed. I would start seeing if there  is local interest to buy them-I'm not sure where you take them to sell or what the market is like in your area. also remember if you sell at point of lay, think of how much money you spend on feed and their care and how much you can get per bird... You might actually lose money 

If they are mix breed, keep them for eggs or eat them, no bother yo sell them.
Here you can buy a mix breed, or production layer chick, for 10 Shekels slmost 2.7$ a BPR ,HRIR, can bring 50 Shekels, Aracauna chick, Marsns 80 Shekels. BPR at point of lay, or a pullet less then a year can be sold for 400! Almost 110$

 

[meltel]

If they are mix breed, keep them for eggs or eat them, no bother yo sell them.
Here you can buy a mix breed, or production layer chick, for 10 Shekels slmost 2.7$ a BPR ,HRIR, can bring 50 Shekels, Aracauna chick, Marsns 80 Shekels. BPR at point of lay, or a pullet less then a year can be sold for 400! Almost 110$

Thats a lot of Shekels

 

[Akrnaf2]

If they are mix breed, keep them for eggs or eat them, no bother yo sell them.

Here you can buy a mix breed, or production layer chick, for 10 Shekels slmost 2.7$ a BPR ,HRIR, can bring 50 Shekels, Aracauna chick, Marsns 80 Shekels. BPR at point of lay, or a pullet less then a year can be sold for 400! Almost 110$

Thats a lot of Shekels 

Not at all! A first class Silky can be sold for 800!
So your quality show Sermas!

 

[kajira]

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[chicken hawk 33]

Just remember. chicks from hatcheries sell for about $3 a chick and they are not mixes. So I would expect for you to get $1.50-$2.00 a chick for straight run mixed breed. I would start seeing if there  is local interest to buy them-I'm not sure where you take them to sell or what the market is like in your area. also remember if you sell at point of lay, think of how much money you spend on feed and their care and how much you can get per bird... You might actually lose money 

here we have a swap/sale at our tractor supply and even people 2or3 hours away come.I payed 5 dollars at chick for pure breeds cochin that turned out not cochin.

 

[meltel]

here we have a swap/sale at our tractor supply and even people 2or3 hours away come.I payed 5 dollars at chick for pure breeds cochin that turned out not cochin.

we have local 4H fairs where people sell their chicks. I paid $2 a chick and got a pure silkie, 2 olive eggers, 2 easter eggers and a couple mutts. I think only 1 was a roo

 

[ChickenCanoe]

A positive verses negative focus. That is something I am trying to learn in my approach. To in all things give thanks.

Is your home designed using feng shui design?

Oh ok if thats the one she sent then i have no doubts it should work. I was thinking i recalled you having one of the brinsea spot checks. As far as calibration goes it has been mentioned and as was also mentioned without being familiar with that exact model i not of much assistance. For the humidity question it has been answered numerous times directly to you. Its not a set number and is irrelevant either way if your not calibrated. It takes practice with your particular incubator and knowing your incubator and equipment to have everything fall into place.
Do you keep notes of your individaul hatches? Some people like notes some do not. It makes it easy to be able to look back and compare what worked, what didnt, what changes you made and if they were the correct changes. A typical hatch for me will include about 10-15 pages worth of notes in a standard size notebook. Im a note taker, others might not be.

I keep notes like that too, on each hatch and follow them as they grow and add that to their pedigree charts

@Akrnaf2 I am trying to learn to trust that He (who loves me) is in control instead of stressing about things I cannot control or that cause me problems. So I can show gentleness to others instead of stressing, and being less than gentle in my interactions with them. This is hard for me.

Serenity now.

I hope not I have been working for several hours, and I drive a Semi.
Beside, that is not one of my threads. I live in Missouri.

I liked it when I went from evening or midnight shift to day shift (6AM start). By the time I became fully awake, it was lunch time.

I think Benny makes a good point. What prevents unwanted bacteria from entering the edges of the hole, 'specially given the chickens' habit of walking in all manner of bacteria-laden,potentially harmful stuff? What prevents the hole from closing just like pierced ears will without earrings in them? If the feet are muddy, how can you even see a small hole in the foot?

The punch creates a larger circumference hole rather than that in an earlobe pierce.
Their punched when the chicks are day old before they are out and about walking in crap. Plus they heal quickly.

I can't believe at anything hatched considering they were shipped in freezing weather, the week of christmas, and lost in the mail for a whole week!!!

Not likely exposed to freezing conditions very long. Sorting facilities and trucks full of warm boxes wouldn't be freezing.

I want geese!!!!!!

They sure make a mess of a hatcher when the down gets all over everything.
Here's some Canadians that shed like crazy.

She's losing that black toe. The rest don't look bad. Are you considering cutting the toe off? She'll do fine without it.
How wide are your roosts? How did she get frostbitten toes?

Ralph, that last photo still has the flap there. It will re-heal. You need to make sure there's a hole. Otherwise it will re-heal and you won't be able to tell them apart.

Thanks, MC!!!

It needs to be an actual hole, or it won't work. The hole, if done correctly, persists into adulthood. The olive egger chicks I got from Luanne at Eight Acres had punched toes - the pullet I kept still has that hole.

Awwwwwwwwww.....

Benny it is a very common practice and is not associated with infection or disfigurement - nor pain.

- Ant Farm

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http://www.themodernhomestead.us/article/Flock+Identification.html

The eggs i collected so far.

Pretty eggs.

I would have totally thought the same thing you did (re: infection). But experience with the procedure just doesn't show that. Not sure why - perhaps it's a blood flow thing, or that baby chicks raised in brooders don't have enough flora in their poop yet. Actually, watching my own recently hatched babies, I did note hat no one pooped for about 24 hours (because there wasn't anything to poop yet, as the first "meal" was making its way through). Could be that they actually AREN'T stepping in poop until after it has mostly healed.

But for whatever reason, breeders use this on really valuable chicks, and I have never heard of losses. Mainly the down side is that the hole closes, or occasionally if the hole is punched too close to the edge, the title bridge of flesh breaks and there's just a gap (that is harder to see and identify).

- Ant Farm

I know lots of people that use toe punching. Most others use wing bands. With an extremely aloof breed, I have to be able to identify them from a distance so bandettes it is.

I have a question what age chicks sell best because that is what I am hatching this batch for to sell

Whatever the market will bear. Past day old, keep in mind that you are feeding them so that costs money.

not a couple days old

Whatever you get a buyer for.

but that's difficult when u have a lot of eggs.I have never weighed them

Not really. That's why I recommended the 1 kg scale. You can weigh a whole tray of eggs 30 at a time.
I sometimes have 100 or more eggs in the incubator. I pick 3 or 4 eggs and follow their weight and then I weigh whole trays.
Weighing is way easier, less time consuming and less chance of damaging or contaminating an egg by candling and marking air cells.
Most people have never weighed egg but I'm just giving you a simpler and more accurate option.
Commercial hatcheries have sophisticated/expensive humidity monitoring and adjusting equipment - but they still weigh eggs, racks at a time.

@ChickenCanoe no, we're not having a necropsy done. We don't have much extra money and no matter what, it won't bring her back. It's possible that she was diabetic and she probably had cancer. That's enough for us.

Have you called any of the labs to see the cost? Some states are very reasonable or free.

No charge on todays visit. He is doing much better. Now we have 2 dogs on 2 different prescription foods that cost $150 a month plus and one dog that eats whatever they do. Bill & I don't have human children. The animals are our babies

As is the case with most pet owners nowadays.
http://www.marketplace.org/2012/02/17/your-money/putting-price-your-pets-health
I couldn't find statistics on what the increase in pet vet spending was from 60 years ago but spending on pets in the US has gone from $17 billion to $60 billion in just the last 20 years.
Nearly 30 billion of that is on vet bills
The average spent on a dog vet visit by Americans in the last year was over $750.
Maybe I'm just old and remember how I raised dogs but I don't have that kind of expendable income.
http://www.americanpetproducts.org/press_industrytrends.asp

Bless those that have the financial wherewithal to do so.
I have a friend that lived rent free with her boyfriend for 17 years and spent ALL of her money on her pets and rescue animals at her vet clinic where she worked and had a 50% discount. Her accountant told her one year her vet expenditures exceeded $34,000.
She and her boyfriend broke up. Since that time she let her chickens and turkeys go, lost 2 of her dogs and is down to one dog and 2 parrots. She's now jobless, has no savings and is living hand to mouth.
Sadly, she has no regrets.

Interestingly, the 2007-2009 recession has caused massive unemployment in the veterinary industry.
https://www.avma.org/news/javmanews/pages/130201a.aspx

I hope I get a good hatch

I hope you do too.

 

[rustymurphy]

We also have swaps grown chickens from 10 dollars a pair or much more chicks from 2 dollars each or more depending on breed and person selling

 

[dan26552]

Is your home designed using feng shui design? I keep notes like that too, on each hatch and follow them as they grow and add that to their pedigree charts Serenity now. I liked it when I went from evening or midnight shift to day shift (6AM start). By the time I became fully awake, it was lunch time. The punch creates a larger circumference hole rather than that in an earlobe pierce. Their punched when the chicks are day old before they are out and about walking in crap. Plus they heal quickly. Not likely exposed to freezing conditions very long. Sorting facilities and trucks full of warm boxes wouldn't be freezing. They sure make a mess of a hatcher when the down gets all over everything. Here's some Canadians that shed like crazy. She's losing that black toe. The rest don't look bad. Are you considering cutting the toe off? She'll do fine without it. How wide are your roosts? How did she get frostbitten toes? X2 http://www.themodernhomestead.us/article/Flock+Identification.html Pretty eggs. I know lots of people that use toe punching. Most others use wing bands. With an extremely aloof breed, I have to be able to identify them from a distance so bandettes it is. Whatever the market will bear. Past day old, keep in mind that you are feeding them so that costs money. Whatever you get a buyer for. Not really. That's why I recommended the 1 kg scale. You can weigh a whole tray of eggs 30 at a time. I sometimes have 100 or more eggs in the incubator. I pick 3 or 4 eggs and follow their weight and then I weigh whole trays. Weighing is way easier, less time consuming and less chance of damaging or contaminating an egg by candling and marking air cells. Most people have never weighed egg but I'm just giving you a simpler and more accurate option. Commercial hatcheries have sophisticated/expensive humidity monitoring and adjusting equipment - but they still weigh eggs, racks at a time. Have you called any of the labs to see the cost? Some states are very reasonable or free. As is the case with most pet owners nowadays. http://www.marketplace.org/2012/02/17/your-money/putting-price-your-pets-health I couldn't find statistics on what the increase in pet vet spending was from 60 years ago but spending on pets in the US has gone from $17 billion to $60 billion in just the last 20 years. Nearly 30 billion of that is on vet bills The average spent on a dog vet visit by Americans in the last year was over $750. Maybe I'm just old and remember how I raised dogs but I don't have that kind of expendable income. http://www.americanpetproducts.org/press_industrytrends.asp Bless those that have the financial wherewithal to do so. I have a friend that lived rent free with her boyfriend for 17 years and spent ALL of her money on her pets and rescue animals at her vet clinic where she worked and had a 50% discount. Her accountant told her one year her vet expenditures exceeded $34,000. She and her boyfriend broke up. Since that time she let her chickens and turkeys go, lost 2 of her dogs and is down to one dog and 2 parrots. She's now jobless, has no savings and is living hand to mouth. Sadly, she has no regrets. Interestingly, the 2007-2009 recession has caused massive unemployment in the veterinary industry. https://www.avma.org/news/javmanews/pages/130201a.aspx I hope you do too.

Awww! They make good flock protectors though.

 

[ChickenCanoe]

If they are mix breed, keep them for eggs or eat them, no bother yo sell them.
Here you can buy a mix breed, or production layer chick, for 10 Shekels slmost 2.7$ a BPR ,HRIR, can bring 50 Shekels, Aracauna chick, Marsns 80 Shekels. BPR at point of lay, or a pullet less then a year can be sold for 400! Almost 110$

Those are honest prices and accurately reflect the value of the bird.
Around here, people still expect to be able to buy a grown hen for $10.
I refuse to sell anything for less than it cost me to raise.

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I want that shirt so bad. Where did you find it?
I need to wear one to my next chicken class.

here we have a swap/sale at our tractor supply and even people 2or3 hours away come.I payed 5 dollars at chick for pure breeds cochin that turned out not cochin.

Let the buyer beware. That's the downside of swaps. Then you also bring home lots of lice and mites from less than careful owners.