EE, Ameraucana, Auracana

[cubalaya]

in backyard poultry magazine i have noticed when people advertise they either say that they have ameraucanas or they have blue ameraucanas or black ameraucanas. i think if you put the color first then people know you have standard ameraucanas.

 

[Indiana hens]

Typical, I am more confused now than when the post started. Is it in a newsletter somewhere to confuse people about these breeds?

 

[farmgirlie1031]

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I already knew though as soon as I saw the feathered feet on my chicks hatched from blue eggs the breeder had taken me and actually sent me mutt eggs. My chickens do have the unusual traits of tufts, blue eggs and rumplessness. But they are not Araucana.

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[cubalaya]

but if you notice when people advertise their standard ameraucanas they always put a color first. white ameraucanas, buff ameraucanas, etc. it is just like the coonhound people wanting the public to think what they have is better than what you have. at one time walker hounds, bluetick hounds and redtick hounds were all registered as english coonhounds and you could find all colors in a litter of pups. then they came up with three different registries. now people will say well i have walkers or i have blueticks or my redticks are better than your walkers. they all have the same ancesters. the same with ameraucanas. they have the same ancesters and they aint pure.

 

[klf73]

many breeds came from other breeds, BUT to be considered a breed they need to breed TRUE. if you breed EE they will not breed true, true ameraucana will. With any breed faults occur, but those are culled

 

[klf73]

i feel like we are just going in circles

 

[speckledhen]

Gee, I have to say, I do not understand why this is such a hard subject. I know I have typed explanation after explanation on this same thing numerous times.
Ameraucanas and Araucanas really look nothing alike. As far as EEs, just take the photo of whatever bird is in question and read the standard, point by point to compare. If it's not one of the accepted colors, it's an EE. If it lays brown eggs, definite EE. That's the simplified version. Remember a picture is worth 1000 words. Take a picture of a true Ameraucana from a breeder, such as pips & peeps and a picture of an Araucana from someone like Jody Hinkle. Look at them together.

 

[farmgirlie1031]

Oh, and my Araucana mix hen, Boots. The Araucana breeder also had Cochins and and oops happened. She lays green eggs even though she hatched from a blue egg due to her cochin sire.

See, she is an ovoius EE. It's not hard.

 

[pips&peeps]

pips&peeps :

pips&peeps :

Still waiting for pictures......................

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[Sonoran Silkies]

they all have the same ancesters. the same with ameraucanas. they have the same ancesters and they aint pure.

If you take it to that, all chickens have the same ancestor--so none are pure--even the ones that have been identified as a breed for 100s of years.

Cubalaya I find it rather noticeable that you have chosen to not post photos of your birds.

Araucanas lay blue eggs; ameraucanas lay blue eggs; and sometimes Easter Eggers lay blue eggs. If it lays anything other than blue, it is not an araucana or ameraucana, but that is not the only criteria.

Colour or variety doesn't make the bird, but a combination of traits, beginning with the type/shape of the bird; its size; and then many other specifics do. If a trait or two is lacking, then it's just a poorer specimen; but if the bird is a complete mismatch then it simply isn't the breed. And yes, ameraucana IS a breed.

Early on, you said you wanted ameraucanas and not Easter Eggers. Why did it matter to you if, as you say "they ain't pure." FOr that matter, why have any BREED if they are all the same?

I certainly know who I won't ever purchase eggs or chicks of any sort from.​