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[casportpony]

No I didn't know that! I've never seen the liquid around here but I'll keep an eye out. That would be much better. Thanks!

-Les

I have horses so I use paste on them because it's easier than trying to give them a syringe full of liquid, lol. One day I was curious and did an experiment with the paste which involved weighing it and comfirming that one ml of paste weighed on gram, which it does. So if you use 1ml of paste you would use 1ml of liquid, both have 100mg fenbendazole.

Anyway, next time you're in tractor supply look for Safeguard liquid for goats.... Think it's about $25

-Kathy

 

[kilby]

Hi there,

Unfortunately I've had a lot of experience with gapeworm on my little chicken farm. Here's my input:

1. If that breathing is accompanied by intervals of "sneezing" (it actually sounds cute until you realize what's going on) then it could very well be gapeworm.

2. Regular de-wormers will not get rid of it. The little buggers are smart enough to stop feeding from the chicken until a systemic de-wormer is out of the hen's system.

3. I use Panacur (fenbendazole, and yes, it is readily available in the US). It's one of the only ones that works on gapeworm. Get a syringe (without the needle) and use a max of 1cc for the biggest hens and roosters (like Jersey Giants), and .5cc for small birds (like bantams). Normal sized birds (cochins, orpingtons, australorps, etc) I'd use about .7cc to .8cc. My easter eggers would get about .6cc. Use your best judgement.

4. Repeat 2x a day for 5 days. Voila! Gapeworms are gone.

There's my gapeworm wisdom. Like I said, the telltale sign for me is the sneezing sound. Next time my girls get it I'll post a video - we get the classic symptoms. Anyway, best of luck!

-Les

Hi Les,
You got me thinking now. One sneezes but I thought it was the change in weather. I can't seem to find liquid panacur. Where did you find it?

 

[casportpony]

Quote: You cannot get liquid Panacur without a prescription. Go to Tractor Supply and get Safeguard for goats, it's the exact same thing as Panacur, trust me! This is from my Vet Drug Handbook:


-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

http://www.revivalanimal.com/SafeGuard.html



http://www.revivalanimal.com/Panacur-Suspension.htm


-Kathy

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[casportpony]

@kilby , you can use any Safeguard or Panacur, liquid or paste, all will work, but Keep in mind that the liquid is *much* less expensive. One 25 gram tube of past has 25ml. Compare that to one bottle of the goat wormer and you'll see that you're better off buying it.

One $25 bottle of liquid = five $14 tubes of paste. Make sense?

-Kathy

 

[kilby]

http://www.revivalanimal.com/SafeGuard.html



http://www.revivalanimal.com/Panacur-Suspension.htm


-Kathy

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@kilby , you can use any Safeguard or Panacur, liquid or paste, all will work, but Keep in mind that the liquid is *much* less expensive. One 25 gram tube of past has 25ml. Compare that to one bottle of the goat wormer and you'll see that you're better off buying it.

One $25 bottle of liquid = five $14 tubes of paste. Make sense?

-Kathy

@kilby , you can use any Safeguard or Panacur, liquid or paste, all will work, but Keep in mind that the liquid is *much* less expensive. One 25 gram tube of past has 25ml. Compare that to one bottle of the goat wormer and you'll see that you're better off buying it.

One $25 bottle of liquid = five $14 tubes of paste. Make sense?

-Kathy

Hi Kathy,
so does the dosage run like LilacLes said. .7-.8cc for standard size chicken. roos 1.0, bantams .5cc. Twice a day for 5 days?
Still I am not convinced she has gape worm Is it good for other worms and maybe parasites?
I am considering .5 % pour on ivermecten for mites.

 

[casportpony]

Quote: The suggestion of giving it twice a day for five days sounds very reasonable, but I think I'd want to be a little more precise on dosing. The dosing they suggested will treat almost all worms that chickens get.

How good at math are you? If you aren't good at math, just let me know and I'll try to figure out some safe doses based off of the .7-..8ml dose for average chickens.


-Kathy

 

[kilby]

The suggestion of giving it twice a day for five days sounds very reasonable, but I think I'd want to be a little more precise on dosing. The dosing they suggested will treat almost all worms that chickens get.

How good at math are you? If you aren't good at math, just let me know and I'll try to figure out some safe doses based off of the .7-..8ml dose for average chickens.


-Kathy

So are you saying .7-.8 ml twice a day or half that twice a day. I give flea meds to cats and dogs through syringe so I guess I know how but doing 13 adults and three five month olds plus 2 at 2 and 3 months old, arghh! I think logistically speaking ivermectin in their water for 24 hours would be easier. Ivermectin must be good for mites as well, the pour on stuff. But not to be used in unison maybe. Thank you very much Kathy. Mites scare the hell out of me so talking about what to do is still good.

 

[jjcuna]

I will try the dewormer as well. I have administered the tylan 50 twice now and she was standing this morning but still very raspy. The way she is acting like something is in her throat leads me to believe it is gape as well. Thanks everyone for your non-judgmental responses. God Bless. Oh yeah all four of my sexlinks are now showing symptoms as well. I really hope this works

 

[LilacLes]

I just saw your comment about the sneezing. It'll be a whole series of sneezes - like 5 to 10 or so - and there will be periods of the classic gape, meaning they extend their necks out with their beaks wide open and make a caw-gasp-cough sound. It sounds horrible, like they're really struggling to breathe. Also note that when they sneeze there's no discharge.

The fact that now all your sexlinks are showing signs makes me think that either it's not gapeworm or they all got infected at once... We have about 40-50 chickens at any given time and I've never had more than one case of gapeworm at a time. It's a really easy cure if it is, though.

Let us know how it goes! Good luck!

-Les