emergency please help

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by jjcuna, Oct 7, 2015.

  1. kilby

    kilby Chillin' With My Peeps

    If it's gape worm don't you deworm?

    "Gapeworms are best prevented by administering a wormer at fifteen to thirty day intervals or including a drug at low levels continuously beginning fifteen days after birds are placed in the infected pens. One drug that is effective for eliminating gapeworms is fenbendazole, however, its use is not presently approved for use in birds by the Food and Drug Administration."
    From http://msucares.com/poultry/diseases/disparas.htm

    Instead of fenbendazole I would use my piperazine . Powder you put in the water for several hours for the whole crew.
     
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  2. carolinasculpture

    carolinasculpture Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Yikes! What is all of that? Any changes yet? Hope you have found what will work. Keep us posted!
     
  3. mirandaleecon

    mirandaleecon Chillin' With My Peeps

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    You want to give them the injection subcutaneously (just under the skin) at the base of the neck. I just pinch a bit of skin and pull up slightly. You shouldn't have to put the needle in far, be careful not to push the needle into the muscle or through the other side. Sometimes it can be hard to see through all the feathers, clip a few of you have to.
    A smaller needle is fine, I've used insulin needles when that's all I had. The guage isn't terribly important since tylan is well dissolved, there shouldn't be any resistance. Just don't use a huge needle as the medicine might leak out. My vet recently gave my goat 500ccs of SQ fluids with a large needle and when she pulled it out it was like there was a hole in a dam. Fluid shot across the room! That won't happen with tylan though...

    I personally wouldn't give it to the ones not showing symptoms but others may disagree. You have the medicine now, if they do start to show, you can always start the medicine. I think antibiotics should only be used when an animal is clearly sick already...
     
  4. jjcuna

    jjcuna Out Of The Brooder

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    Did you watch the video? She is still acting the same just sitting in one spot. I am about to administer the tylan. I am just wondering if I should use the other medication in there water as well?
     
  5. jjcuna

    jjcuna Out Of The Brooder

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    Thanks so much for all your time and help. One last question...Should I use 1cc or less and how many times should I administer the medication? Thanks in advance
     
  6. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member

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    It would be best to get her inside in a warm room (80-85 degrees is ideal).

    -Kathy
     
  7. mirandaleecon

    mirandaleecon Chillin' With My Peeps

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    if it is a full sized bird, and you have the 50 (not 200) then 1/2 cc for five days. 1/2 for bantam.
    I did watch the video and it does look like it could be gape worm but I don't think gape worm would make her that sick alone, usually the worms weaken the immune system and something else takes advantage. So I think either way, antibiotics would be good. Also, worms have sensitive gut flora, so theres a good chance the antibiotics would kill some of them off as well. I would give it a couple days on the antibiotic and then worm her to take care of the rest.
     
  8. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member

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    You can use Tylan and Safeguard together... No need to wait. The Safeguard dose I use is 0.23ml per pound orally for five days. Three days will treat gapes, but capillary worms need five, so might as well give for five.

    -Kathy
     
  9. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member

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    Gapeworms are rare in chickens, so if you're seeing others showing similar symptoms, it's probably a respiratory infection.

    -Kathy
     
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  10. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member

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    How much does she weigh?

    -Kathy
     

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