Ethic Delima: Marijuana?

[Momma_Cluck]

oh! and you can feed it to chickens with no problems--
I read a clip on a California farmer that grows for Med patiets and feeds the clippings to the chickens and geese. Birds do not have cannabinoid receptors in their brains-- only Carnivores & "non-avian" omnivores like humans, pigs and bears do.

 

[vfem]

If marijuana WERE legal, it would be treated just like drinking and smoking and there would only be debates about it being GOOD for someone... but the industry would have enough money to fight to keep it legal. As its not legal... the fight is legality.

All the makes a difference is the legal stamp currently on the product. Its like a medical research medicine from say "Germany". If the FDA doesn't approve it, its not legal here.... so no debate is open for it outside its legality. If the FDA were to ok it, any further debate would be on its effectiveness and its safety for whom to use.

The legal 'outlawed' stamp is not a rational reason to debate such things. Ethically, most people think it is WRONG because it is not LEGAL... if it were legal, more people would willingly bepass that ethical line and believe it ok. Ethically, those people don't want to break the law... it has nothing to do with the drug.

(P.S. - More people die from prescribed drugs every year (3 million) then from illegal street trafficing. But that has no impact on a debate based, yet again... on legality.)

 

[conradpdx]

I agree with the above post. For a debate you need better information than a bunch of chicken ranchers can give.

But now for the "opinion" part of this post. Legalize it and all the other drugs and tax it. Use the taxes to support rehab programs and education and watch the drug use and crime rate fade away.

As for marijuana, I'm not gunna lie. I use to smoke it...a lot (I smoked it but seldom drank) but then I got married and had kids and my priorities shifted. But I cannot see any legitimate reason for it to be illegal at all (unlike heroin- where I might disagree, I do understand the agreement against it being legalized). I know Amsterdam is just a big crime ridden hovel ever since they started doing this. And I can't remember the last time I "didn't" (sarcasm) see headlines of the pot wars going on in Canada right now.

It's natural, there has never been a confirmed case of overdose from it and is a lot less harmful to the body than alcohol, tobacco or most prescription drugs (you know the ones where the ads are 30 seconds of who shouldn't take this drug).

Lets not forget the other benefits of non-mind altering sister hemp, which is also illegal to grow here in the states.

The reason it is illegal is to keep people in jail for cheap labor and to pad the pockets of the companies that are in charge of keeping them incarcerated. Also because the beer and booze companies don't want the competition. There are cases where people are doing longer sentences for possession of small quantities than others are doing for murder, which is ridiculous.

I could go on forever, but all this Refeer madness stuff is frustrating to watch when people should know better now-a-days.

 

[1acrefarm]

I think it is a shame and a crime against humanity that our government prohibits this inexpensive and versatile medication. Pharmaceutical companies lobby our Congress to keep it illegal. People should not have to suffer over corporate and government greed. The lobbyists trying to keep it illegal and the congressman influenced by them are a bunch of dirty no good scoundrels. Completely worthless.

 

[Lunachick]

My husband would qualify for med marijuana if it were legalized in our area. And then I would need it too just for the stress of all his medical issues. (It does help with stress & anxiety issues)

Doesn't hurt to try...

Seriously, I think it's a joke that they don't legalize it. It's like they're afraid to go back on the "just say no" issue from the 80's. It has a lot of potential as a good medical drug from I see. As it is, because it's illegal, it turns into a BAD drug.

 

[mom'sfolly]

I think the points of your argument should be comparing common anti-glaucoma, anti-nausea, and anti-pain meds to medical marijauna. The comparison should be based on cost, side effects and efficacy. In my brief look, the common side effects of these meds were much the same as marijauna.

Personally, I believe that marijauna is far less dangerous than many drugs already on the market. I also feel that the medical/pharamecuetical industry has little interest in investigating and investing in the medical aspects of marijauna because the raw form is readily available, if illegal, minimal processing is needed and administration of the drug is easy. It can even be argued that the whole plant provides more benefit than refined THC, because of other plant compounds.

The main benefit of fully legalized marijauna, in my opinion, would be the standardization of production, and dosage. No more strange chemicals sprayed on plants to help them grow.

As a side bar, I also advocate the decriminalization of marijauna. I think in terms of legalized drugs, it is far less dangerous than either cigarettes or alchohol. I think we waste far too much of the taxpayers money pursuing pot, and not enough fighting drunk driving.

 

[imfowl]

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I agree totally. A ridiculous amount of money is being spent to fight this so called "drug" when we could be using ths money to get rid of illegal aliens or reform the welfare system. I also think it would be better to keep my opinion to myself on the abortion issue.

 

[deb1]

my own 'opinion' is that marijuna should be legal.

Think how it could stimulate the country if our government could tax this product. With the economy as bad as it is we shouldn't be wasting money on a drug war that isn't working anyway.

 

[beak]

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Bravo!!!!

You and Wifezilla made a lot of very good points along with Walking Wolf. You know an interesting factoid per our local fraud buster Tom Martino. The fight for prohibition was financed by the oil companies. The model T was originally designed to run on alcohol. Back then it was very common for farmers to distill their own alcohol. So Ford designed his engines to run on alcohol. Gasoline was very new on the scene and the oil companies were trying to create a market for it. Of course people like Carrie Nation didn't know how they were being manipulated. They were just sick of the evils of drink. After 5 years gasoline was the fuel of choice because of availability. Of course I imagine gasoline would have taken over anyway. It is much more efficient, and of course nobody knew about the evils of fossil fuels back then.

Reefer madness indeed.

 

[stormie]

We were talking about the same topic the other day in my health class actually. I personally think that it really wouldn't matter if it was legal because study's show that over 42% of a Americans do it already. Now I don't believe in drugs, alcohol, or tobacco. Never tried pot, never will. The reason for it, and this is the bad end of the debate, is that sure people try it and the first time may not affect your body badly, but it's the long term use and the fact that like cigarettes it can get very addicting. Also, I have had friends smoke for awhile and then quit because they smoked to make and had bad panic attacks. So as I stated before, sure it would change a few things if the legalized it but, but in the long run many people already do it.