I can't even do that.......I retired from ATT after 38 years and I used to wire businesses for their customers to get the net,,,,,the closest one to me is 17 miles away!!!!! When we say 'out in the sticks here'...we actually mean we are alot farther out than the sticks go....but it is nice to drink coffee in the morning on your front porch in whatever type of clothing you slept in the night before...LOL

e If everything that you all say is true...which I believe, we need to get these birds sanctioned by the APA and let everyone know how good they really are. A good buddy of mine is an apprentice APA judge and a NPIP tester and he says we can get that done.....and I'm in for whatever it takes. Nice looking breeder cage BTW.......I've also done woodworking forever...I'm kinda into "Turning" now .............Mike