Famous Hatchery 'Pure Bred' Appearances

[BlackHackle]

What if they are supposed to have nasty attitudes? It is more than temperament though.

Like the Assil breeds

 

[BantyChooks]

Breed standards can be the ruination of breeds. There is far more to a breed than just it's looks, standards only deal with looks.

Standards are merely guides. Bad breeders are the thing that ruins a line.

I've been surprised by how many people truly only follow the SOP and don't use common sense. When I got interested in breeding to the SOP, it was because I thought birds bred to such a standard were beautiful, practical, and productive. Wide bodies, high egg production, strong frames, strong heads, good health, and colour too! They were balanced in type with firey yet intelligent personalities. Finding out that many don't see it that way was saddening.

For example, I have a PC hen with colour so bad that you couldn't even ID her breed from a distance. Her type is better but still questionable. I still am keeping her. Why? She is built very well, with exceptional freedom of movement and agility. She stays in good flesh on perhaps less than ideal feed, she holds her own in the flock without being a bully, she is healthy, and she is intelligent. Too much so, at times. Doesn't feel nice to get outsmarted by a chicken, lol! Anyway, my point here is---she could have the cleanest pencilling or the best tail carriage of any bird of her breed on this side of the border, and she still wouldn't be worth near as much to me as she is now. She could be a mutt and I would still be proud to own her, because when I see her out hunting bugs, or when I pick her up and feel how solid she is, I smile. That's what the SOP is to me---a challenge, to bring the chicken's natural beauty to new heights and make even new chicken people stop and say "Now THAT'S a bird." To try to do that without keeping other aspects balanced is pointless and hurting the breed, IMHO.

 

[LilJoe]

My breeder seramas are the sweetest. They each have their own personalities like any other chicken. My layer flock is flighty with a few that are very friendly.
With having both breeder and hatchery birds I can see where everyone is coming from, though.
(I lost my train of thought.. I might continue later.)

 

[Amer]

This thread has seemed to only touch on the visible differences. The behavioral differences between hatchery stock and purebreds can be quite profound.

Interesting. I've always heard it was the same. However, I suppose breeders are more careful to cull aggressiveness from their stock. Even though it is not a cut for aggressiveness, an aggressive bird often doesn't have the right stance. Also, breeders don't usually stand for aggressive roosters overall.

 

[Mimi13]

(I lost my train of thought.. I might continue later.)

Oh dear, I have that disease too. Thankfully my chickens don’t mind, nor do they call my attention to it.

 

[Amer]

Hatchery birds and also a hatchery barred rock (pay no mind to her markings, poor thing) clearly a naaaaaasty attitude.

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The females I've owned are sweethearts but a whole lot (ok most) of the hatchery males I've met are evil.

 

[Amer]

Standards are merely guides. Bad breeders are the thing that ruins a line.

I've been surprised by how many people truly only follow the SOP and don't use common sense. When I got interested in breeding to the SOP, it was because I thought birds bred to such a standard were beautiful, practical, and productive. Wide bodies, high egg production, strong frames, strong heads, good health, and colour too! They were balanced in type with firey yet intelligent personalities. Finding out that many don't see it that way was saddening.

For example, I have a PC hen with colour so bad that you couldn't even ID her breed from a distance. I still am keeping her. Why? She is built very well, with exceptional freedom of movement and agility. She stays in good flesh on perhaps less than ideal feed, she holds her own in the flock without being a bully, and she is intelligent. Too much so, at times. Doesn't feel nice to get outsmarted by a chicken, lol! Anyway, my point here is---she could have the cleanest pencilling or the best tail carriage of any bird of her breed on this side of the border, and she still wouldn't be worth near as much to me as she is now. She could be a mutt and I would still be proud to own her.

Yes. I agree with all of this.

 

[CrziChickMom]

My golden laced polish crested roo is the biggest jerk ever! His son's, carry his stink attitude. Needless to say, they're all being rehomed. Well, I've got a bantam roo who's aunry too so, they're all being rehomed or, culled. I dont tolerate any nasty roos. My sweethearts are here to stay though, one being my Cochin baby. I accept a little rudeness when it means my roo is doing his job and, protecting his ladies from harm, that's strictly it.

 

[ShellyBlanco]

I have RIRs from TSC, so hatchery. They are fantastic with humans, but they won't let a new bird into their "click". They let them forage around them, but if the outcasts find something, the Reds go take it from them at least half of the time. They don't peck at them with maliciousness, but I think a few of them quite like to bully. I love them though, they come begging for attention. When I catch them being a bully, I scoop them up for a little discipline.

 

[Amer]

D'Anvers!!!!!
Ugh and I have some decent ones, but they are either too young or molting to the point I'm thinking the bird is trying to morph into a bantam Wyandotte because his girlfriend is a bantam Wyandotte.