Feeding scraps/Seeking answer to settle a friendly bet

[PattySh]

Anyone needing to save on the grain bill or wanting healthy food for your birds/animals, check to see if you can get access to prep trimmings locally. I feed my chickens/turkeys/guineas(and other animals) kitchen trimmings from a top quality commercial kitchen. We are very lucky to get a HUGE bag almost every day. There is lots of food wasted in some kitchens. They cut off several inches of celery (top and bottom), same for romaine lettuce plus outside leaves, an inch at the top + bottom of carrots plus the peels, the stem of the brocolli, peel lots of pinapples, ends of summer squashes, tomato trimmings etc. Excellent organic vegies/fruits for the most part. The birds will eat any fruit or vegie except onions. They go crazy over pineapple and melon. They also get day old fresh bakery stuff in limited qty, fancy muffins or cookies especially and outdated prepared sandwiches, or leftover cheese/yogurt etc. I have pigs (will eat anything but onions)and goats(just the fruit/vegies/muffins) so they all eat it too and the rabbits and horses enjoy the carrots. I have milking goats so the birds get old milk too(we only drink it til day 4), they love it when I sit it on the shelf til it curdles (the pigs also adore curdled milk). I've had comments my animals eat better than most people. With the kitchen "scraps" my grain bill is way less, especially for the chickens/turkeys and pigs and they all look fantastic.

 

[NYREDS]

Every Saturday I clean out the fridge. Any leftovers in there go in a big bowl & go out to the chickens. When they see me coming with the bowl they're all up against the fence waiting eagerly. Also if we come accross some frezer burned meat when we defrost the freezer that goes to the chickens as well. Vegetable & fruit peels peels, past their prime fruits, veggies, baked goods, they all go to the chickens. If you can eat it they can eat it. About the only things mine won't eat are raw onions & rutabagas. I don't get thet, I love rutabagas.

 

[CrazyTalk]

Tomatoes are nightshades.


Chickens -- like humans -- can eat the FRUIT of the nightshade plants, but the rest of the plants (leaves, stems, roots) are poisonous to both humans and chickens.

Tomatoes don't produce solanine, the chemical that makes nightshades toxic - they produce (seriously) tomatonine instead, which is significantly less toxic. (You'd die from gut rupture eating tomato plants before dieing from tomatonine). Potatoes produce lots of solanine, and are toxic.

Also, the berries of many of the nightshade plants (belladona, for instance), will kill you.

 

[Chris09]

Tomatoes don't produce solanine, the chemical that makes nightshades toxic - they produce (seriously) tomatonine instead, which is significantly less toxic. (You'd die from gut rupture eating tomato plants before dieing from tomatonine). Potatoes produce lots of solanine, and are toxic.

Also, the berries of many of the nightshade plants (belladona, for instance), will kill you.

The word is tomatine and tomatoes plants can contain both solanine and tomatine.
The main parts of the tomato plant contain solanine, the main poison are in the stems, leaves, and green fruit.
As the tomato fruit ripens it's said to looses some of the solanine and starts to contain more tomatine.

The department of poison control in Californian clams all green parts of a tomato plant is poisons to human and animal.

 

[CrazyTalk]

The word is tomatine and tomatoes plants can contain both solanine and tomatine.
The main parts of the tomato plant contain solanine, the main poison are in the stems, leaves, and green fruit.
As the tomato fruit ripens it's said to looses some of the solanine and starts to contain more tomatine.

The department of poison control in Californian clams all green parts of a tomato plant is poisons to human and animal.

The US Department of Agriculture disagrees with California Poison Control, and says that tomatoes do not contain Solanine, and says there is no evidence or cases of tomato toxicity in the medical or veterinary literature. I trust their take more than California Poison Control, as California thinks everything is toxic.

 

[Chris09]

The US Department of Agriculture disagrees with California Poison Control, and says that tomatoes do not contain Solanine, and says there is no evidence or cases of tomato toxicity in the medical or veterinary literature. I trust their take more than California Poison Control, as California thinks everything is toxic.

Are you revering the Federal Department of Agriculture and Dr. Mendel Friedman?

If you have a link to the information that your talking about please post it, because every botanical and horticulture book and article I have read state that the leave, stems and green tomatoes (green tomatoes in lesser amounts) contain Solanine along with other "toxins"...

As for veterinary literature here quote from Rutgers University on the "toxins" in tomatoes and tomato plants.
Rutgers University has probably done more experiments, cultivating and testing on tomatoes than the FDA and USDA ever will...
Quote: Rutgers University

 

[earlyredrooster]

[COLOR=000000]Are you revering the Federal Department of Agriculture and [/COLOR][COLOR=252525]Dr. Mendel Friedman? [/COLOR]

If you have a link to the information that your talking about please post it, because every botanical and horticulture book and article I have read state that the leave, stems and green tomatoes (green tomatoes in lesser amounts) contain [COLOR=252525]Solanine[/COLOR] along with other "toxins"...

As for veterinary literature here quote from Rutgers University on the "toxins" in tomatoes and tomato plants.
Rutgers University has probably done more experiments, cultivating and testing on tomatoes than the FDA and USDA ever will...  

I don't know about all that but I have been eating fried green tomatoes all my life...and I have lived fourty-eight years.

 

[Chris09]

I don't know about all that but I have been eating fried green tomatoes all my life...and I have lived fourty-eight years.

Note where I said
Quote: As a tomato ages and ripens it looses its potency.
The younger green tomatoes are going to be more "potent" than a larger green tomatoes.
I would think that your not frying up little dime size green tomatoes, instead your frying up the larger tomatoes right around or right before the tomato hits the blushing stage.

 

[earlyredrooster]

You are correct, I pick green frying tomatoes when the top turns white. Usually about the size of a grown man's fist.

 

[krose2001]

I love feeding the chickens scraps and they love it too, but somehow I can't make myself feed them leftover scrambled eggs OR cooked chicken, it just seems---wrong. Even if THEY don't know, I KNOW! LOL

I love finding what their favorites are in terms of grains, fruits and vegetables, but as moderate meat eaters, we don't have a lot of meat scraps to feed our chickens, and definitely never any leftovers with salmon or beef.