Fermenting Feed for Meat Birds

[Beekissed]

Oh, Bee, he IS simply stunning! I LOVE it! Are these painted desert sheep also hair sheep? My daughter has been talking to me about them recently but I hadn't seen a picture. He is gorgeous! Is he yours? How tall is he and how much would you guess on weight? Any aggressive tendencies towards humans? Good flock protectors?

If only!!! Nope, he's not mine but it's a breed I've always wanted to try. A lady over on BYHs has one looks a lot like him but it's a wether ram and he protects her chickens from all predators, even stomped a possum to death! She says he's as sweet as sugar to her and he looks stunning...love the coloring!

Walt, you sound normal to me!

X2 I talk to my animals too, but not so much with the nagging part.

I do nag about the eggs at this time of year, though, per usual. But..if I had goats I guess I'd be compelled to fuss at them too until I could put them in the freezer.

Got Goats???

Got spots???


Goats got lots a MEAT!


Goats got lots a MILK!


Cart Goat???


Pack Goat???

Got parasites? Lots of them? Got good home owners insurance...lots of it? Got 6 ft. high fences built to keep in buffaloes? Lots of it? Got fruit trees? Say good-bye to them. Got anything chewable at all? Say good-bye to it.

 

[waltandlori]

I have a for-real question, does anybody have, or know of anyone that has a "how to make a killing cone" plan. Just need the arcs more or less. there is a you tube vid, but it's pretty "cobby" I like the one in the Vt. "1st video". I know it's store bought but i'm cheap um er "mechanically inclined".

Walt

 

[waltandlori]

If only!!! Nope, he's not mine but it's a breed I've always wanted to try. A lady over on BYHs has one looks a lot like him but it's a wether ram and he protects her chickens from all predators, even stomped a possum to death! She says he's as sweet as sugar to her and he looks stunning...love the coloring!

X2 I talk to my animals too, but not so much with the nagging part.

I do nag about the eggs at this time of year, though, per usual. But..if I had goats I guess I'd be compelled to fuss at them too until I could put them in the freezer.


Got parasites? Lots of them? Got good home owners insurance...lots of it? Got 6 ft. high fences built to keep in buffaloes? Lots of it? Got fruit trees? Say good-bye to them. Got anything chewable at all? Say good-bye to it.

Bee you have this thing about freezers you goin cryo or sumpin when you croak????

Walt

 

[Beekissed]

I have a for-real question, does anybody have, or know of anyone that has a "how to make a killing cone" plan. Just need the arcs more or less. there is a you tube vid, but it's pretty "cobby" I like the one in the Vt. "1st video". I know it's store bought but i'm cheap um er "mechanically inclined".

Walt

Walt, I had the chance to use some of those flashing made killing cones this summer and was less than impressed...no, that's an overstatement. I was disgusted. They taper too quickly, do not conform to the bird's body and are too wide at the opening,letting the chickens get their feet down in the cone and also let them shrug their shoulders to get out of them..and chickens were popping out of those things like popcorn. I'd never seen such incompetence at a processing in my life and I was pretty embarrassed that we were supposed to be teaching newbies how to process and bumbling around like clowns because of those cones.

Then I brought out the bleach jug I brought with me and showed them how easy this can be..every bird fit into it, no birds came out of it, and it takes less than 2 min. to "make" a cone from a 2 gal. bleach jug. It's what I've been using for years and will fit the biggest rooster down to the smallest hen. They can't draw their necks back into it like they can with the metal cones and they can't get their feet down into it...they really can't move much at all because their own weight causes the bleach jug to conform to their body, their shoulders fit neatly into the shoulders of the jug, and the softness of the plastic does the rest. Here's a pic or two of birds in a bleach jug...these things last for a good long time, are easy to clean and easy to replace.

 

[Beekissed]

Bee you have this thing about freezers you goin cryo or sumpin when you croak????

Walt

It's where I place animals that don't have enough meat on them to can. It's all about procuring food on this particular forum and that is what I do with animals. Now, in the burbs and the city, you folks don't concentrate on getting food as much as we do here in the sticks and the freezer is a relatively new thing for me so it's a neat and handy thing to have. We used to not even have a fridge, nor any electricity or running water on the homestead, so all the meat had to be canned, jerked or eaten right away. Now we have a freezer...handy gadget that.

Goat meat is supposed to be good and TW assures me it is, so when I think of goats, I think...hmm...put it in the freezer. Not enough meat on them to can them.

 

[Triple Willow]

@Walt... check this out... looks like fun!

 

[Triple Willow]

@Bee... have you not ever ate goat meat? It's the most consumed meat in the world- followed by chicken, beef then sheep. That is because they are extremely hardy animals that can survive (with minimal modern husbandry) from the mountains to the deserts around the world. And I do like an animal with a little spirit to it.

 

[Beekissed]

@Bee... have you not ever ate goat meat? It's the most consumed meat in the world- followed by chicken, beef then sheep. That is because they are extremely hardy animals that can survive (with minimal modern husbandry) from the mountains to the deserts around the world. And I do like an animal with a little spirit to it.

TW, you need to head on over to the BYH and let those folks over there know that goats are hardy and can survive without medicine popped into them all the time and you'll get a vastly different picture of goats. Now, back in my day goats were everything you say and more, but nowadays it appears they are fragile flowers that need deworming schedules, a certain type of mineral, injections for this deficiency and that deficiency and they die like flies for no reason. Take a stroll over there and see for yourself....then I dare you to tell those folks that goats are naturally hardy and don't need all that intervention.

I tried that. Got nowhere. Because no one actually EATS goat over there or anywhere else in America except for certain ethnic groups and a few lonely folks like yourself, it would seem.

Just sit and read what most of the posts are about and most of them start with "HELP!!!" and they are in the goat section.

You could be the Bee of the BYH and help those folks realize that goats shouldn't be dying like flies when they eat a plant, have a kid, walk across the yard minding their own business, etc.

 

[waltandlori]

It's where I place animals that don't have enough meat on them to can. It's all about procuring food on this particular forum and that is what I do with animals. Now, in the burbs and the city, you folks don't concentrate on getting food as much as we do here in the sticks and the freezer is a relatively new thing for me so it's a neat and handy thing to have. We used to not even have a fridge, nor any electricity or running water on the homestead, so all the meat had to be canned, jerked or eaten right away. Now we have a freezer...handy gadget that.

Goat meat is supposed to be good and TW assures me it is, so when I think of goats, I think...hmm...put it in the freezer. Not enough meat on them to can them.

Bee, just kidding, sorry. I've been a "country boy" most of my life, didn't like the city life, felt lonely even with all those people around me. didn't like where I lived in Fl, too crowded couldn't have critters etc. Where I live now is rural not boonies but pretty secluded, decidely not the burbs. When I was a kid we lived "in the boonies" no running water, no insided toilet, did have electricty though. I have no problem with eating what you produce, or the taking of wild game (if done properly). I doubt the goats will be food, so I guess that makes me "one of those", they were a cheap purchase for the grand daughter, Although she understands the cycle of life. I won't be hunting deer here, I don't think it would be very "sporting" to shoot them from the front porch, although that might change if I have to become a "sustenance hunter" to survive. Wasn't aiming to offend, weird sense of humor. I grow some of my food so I know where it came from, and because I don't like the "factory farms" that is just wrong.

Walt

 

[waltandlori]

@Walt... check this out... looks like fun!

Willow, only if the goat is doing the work and not to exercise the goat. lol Too old for that. See post 9015...... it's yours. I tell everyone the bees know what their doing, so do the chickens, most critters do (with the exception of humans) they'll tell me what they need. I try not to interfere too much lol.

Walt