First Hatch of 08!!!!

[newbiecaroline]

Hi Barngodess, that's why they get paid the big bucks!
oh yea it's all volunteered aren't they nice people?
I'm full of dumb questions I haven't even thought of yet!

 

[therealsilkiechick]

no prob, only dumb question is one not asked. when we first started dh marked them with sharpi cause it was all we had laying around when hatched they had red spots or blue spots that lasted a few weeks on them,lol. i was affraid it was toxic so i use pen but he prefers pencil. i can't get pencil to write on them right. neither go through the shell.

well update. :| we took out the first pipped one to check since it was over 24 hours since it piped. and i knew it was dead soon as i saw it by the lack of blood in the veins in the membrain so i opened it to see what was wrong mabe to figure out what went wrong why they are over due. well i got the surprise of my life something i've never seen!!!

this buff silkie not only piped but didn't die from internal pip, it died cause it somehow was in there wrong and piped through it's egg sac!! the egg sac has a big hole in the center with the chicked head through it, looks like his head is through a little donut. it suffocated it as it was trying to pip. i have no clue how it did it and thought it was an amazing sight so here is some pics. i'd not believe it if i hadn't just saw it myself. i didn't never think of anything like that happening. how in the world did it manage to do it????

edit to fix pic sorry wrong one,lol.

 

[newbiecaroline]

ohhhh noooo poor little guy......
the egg sac is red? so egg sac is not the membrane which is white right?
awwwww

 

[therealsilkiechick]

the white part is called albumen if i remember right it is like the amneo of a human baby sac. the egg yolk is what feeds them and as they hatch they absorb it into their bellies and can live and eat off of it for up to 3 days after hatch till it is fully absorbed.

in person it looks more weird yellow and dead looking not bright yellow like it should be and it has alot of veins on it with some pretty big thick ones that r red colored. never seen that before either usually they are tiny looking. i don't get what would cause that the poor thing. some are peeping and working on zigging just not out yet but are doing fine so i hope it's only this one. i wanted to cry when i saw it. darn little cuttie never stood a chance it's yolk sac should have never been up where it could do that. and how in the world did it do it without breaking is what i want to know. it's fully intacked with it's head strait trough it like it grew that way for awhile.

 

[newbiecaroline]

ohhh its the actual yolk?
wow should have been way below her head by her belly...
yea that is strange
no way more would be like that - too much of a fluke!
aww I'm so so sorry

 

[therealsilkiechick]

my gosh that is so weird i finished takeing it out of the egg to make sure. yep that is it's yolk sac!!! it is stretched from it's abdoman up over it's head and it's head is through it, look definately like it grew that way but how did it make it to full term that way?

WOW!!! let me see if i can take a better pic this is amazeing, it should be in a poultry museum!! the flash keeps getting in the way to bright. i'm sorry for it too but in away i'm glad it didn't make it cause something just was not right with it. i'd rather it die of natural causes then get attached and it die later i'd of been crushed!!!

 

[newbiecaroline]

could it mean the yolk sac was extra large? a deformity?
make a new post with it? see who knows anything?

 

[therealsilkiechick]

where should i put it? i'm uploading more pics now. i wouldn't think anything of it but it's an oddity i've never heard of before mabe something happened in shipping? it looks normal sized but the abdoman is streatched tight and up to it's neck then a whole with it's head through it. it is in perfect condition and so is the yolk sac that's why i don't get it.

 

[therealsilkiechick]

i put it in emergancies and cures ect thought mabe that was the best place to put it since it was a medical type learning thing. so i added 4 more pics of it also. we'll see if anyone may know what caused it or what to do if more have it happen. the yolk sac does look aweful big after looking at the new pics so i'm not really sure.

 

[newbiecaroline]

ok I remembered this, see what you think...it mentions "The yolk prevents the division from taking place through the egg,"
maybe the yolk is at fault from the beginning?


Blastoderm
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A Blastoderm is the layer of cells formed at one pole of the yolky egg of birds. The yolk prevents the division from taking place through the egg, resulting in meroblastic cleavage during the many cleavage divisions. At the pole containing less yolk, the ovum divides and subdivides, forming the blastoderm, which gradually spreads around the yolk and forms the embryo. The blastoderm is comprised of two layers, the epiblast and the hypoblast, which enclose the fluid-filled blastocoel cavity. This embryonic stage is the avian equivalent of birds.

I may be understanding this wrong but sounds like that white dot is the start of the later division into a bullseye.


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