First Three 2015 Eggs are FERTILE

[AugeredIn]

All my nine eggs from last week is infertile

Still waiting for the first fertile egg.

Sounds like my luck last year!

 

[AugeredIn]

It would help a lot if I knew what splits the Cameos had. It would also help if I could retain all the help you guys have tried to teach me about genetics and how they work.

I joke about my CRS but it isn't very funny.

I assume that because the cock is low percentage Spaulding that will not make much of an impact on the offspring. He is Purple BS, the Cameos I know are hiding BS, Pied, and WE so I may end up with a lot of variants? With my luck I will end up with mostly IBs.

I will make a stab at it and I am mostly guessing here. 1/4 IBs, 1/4 Purple, 1/4 Cameo, and 1/4 Cameo BS?

Forget all the patterns. Just think colors. What does that cross throw? What are the boys? What are the girls?

 

[KsKingBee]

Forget all the patterns. Just think colors. What does that cross throw? What are the boys? What are the girls?

I think I need a purple hen to get purple cocks, so all the cocks should be IB and all the hens purple. I am pretty sure that is the case if the hens were IB, I am not sure since the hens are Cameo, but I suspect the hen chicks should be purple...

 

[AugeredIn]

If you breed a Purple boy to Cameo girls, you will get IB boys split purple and cameo and purple girls right? Forget all the patterns.

Now take one of those IB boys split purple and cameo and breed it to a cameo hen. What do you get?

 

[KsKingBee]

If you breed a Purple boy to Cameo girls, you will get IB boys split purple and cameo and purple girls right? Forget all the patterns.

Now take one of those IB boys split purple and cameo and breed it to a cameo hen. What do you get?

I am pretty sure that would produce Cameo cocks and Cameo hens, probably some Purple hens. What else?

 

[Peafowlssssssss]

I am pretty sure that would produce Cameo cocks and Cameo hens, probably some Purple hens. What else?

And some peach hens i guess

 

[AugeredIn]

I am pretty sure that would produce Cameo cocks and Cameo hens, probably some Purple hens. What else?

The Punnett square would look like this right?

Male = Xc/Xp
Hen = Xc/Y

Xc Xp
Xc Xc/Xc Xp/Xc
Y Xc/Y Xp/Y

So all other things being equal, you would have Cameo boys, IB boys split Purple and split Cameo, Cameo hens and Purple hens right?

And some peach hens i guess

Well, maybe, here is where it gets tricky. You see we all have been taught that there are two chromosomes and one or the other gets passed on. That is not how it works. Crossover regularly occurs to provide genetic freshness. Imagine the two x chromosomes of the male as follows:

First X Chromosome = (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20)
Second X Chromosome = (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20)

Each of the numbers represents a gene location. What actually happens is that a lot of the time crossover occurs as the chromosome and genes are sorted to create the sperm so you occasionally end up with a chromosome that is passed in that is a combination of both like this:

Passed Chromosome = (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20)

Now the break point could occur anywhere between any gene. I will show you how you might get peach next if you understand this.

 

[KsKingBee]

Yes. This was in the video you shared too, right? You are making it much clearer. Thank you.

 

[Peafowlssssssss]

The Punnett square would look like this right?

Male = Xc/Xp
Hen = Xc/Y

Xc Xp
Xc Xc/Xc Xp/Xc
Y Xc/Y Xp/Y

So all other things being equal, you would have Cameo boys, IB boys split Purple and split Cameo, Cameo hens and Purple hens right?

Well, maybe, here is where it gets tricky. You see we all have been taught that there are two chromosomes and one or the other gets passed on. That is not how it works. Crossover regularly occurs to provide genetic freshness. Imagine the two x chromosomes of the male as follows:

First X Chromosome = (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20)
Second X Chromosome = (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20)

Each of the numbers represents a gene location. What actually happens is that a lot of the time crossover occurs as the chromosome and genes are sorted to create the sperm so you occasionally end up with a chromosome that is passed in that is a combination of both like this:

Passed Chromosome = (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20)

Now the break point could occur anywhere between any gene. I will show you how you might get peach next if you understand this.

I almost understand it, thank you. But anyway i'm working with two males split peach, so it would be easier to get peach hens, and maybe i could find peach hen some day so i could save a lot of time until i get peach male.

 

[DylansMom]

I almost understand it, thank you. But anyway i'm working with two males split peach, so it would be easier to get peach hens, and maybe i could find peach hen some day so i could save a lot of time until i get peach male.

If you have 2 males that are split to Peach, you should have a decent chance of hatching a Peach hen from them, at least I would think so? Because the Peach is a sex linked color half the daughters from these 2 males should be Peach(on paper anyway). But getting a Peach hen would save time for sure.