Florida welfare drug testing

[equinelyn]

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AAAAMEN!!!! I'm totally for it, and it's LONG over due. Bring it to Baltimore!

 

[booker81]

Regarding welfare - we have tried to get assistance a few years ago when I wasn't working, DD was a baby, and DH was laid off and getting unemployment. We "made too much". Getting assistance isn't exactly easy. We made it through with the help of family and sliding on bills with the ok of our utilities providers. A drug test wouldn't have bothered me, but then, I've been tested many times for jobs, and DH is regularly tested at work randomly. If they want my pee, they can have it

Regarding SSDI and the like - my FIL is very overweight. His past career was running a machine press or die or something, where he sat all day to work. Didn't help his weight. He gained and gained, and then the company shut down. He had no job, and by then was morbidly obese with serious joint problems. He could still work at that type of job, but those jobs were leaving the state, and the ones left didn't want a 60 year old obese man who might apparently be a liability. He also was a few years shy or retiring. Pretty much caught in a rock and hard place.

It still took about half a year for his SSDI case to come through. He does try to eat well and exercise, but when you're 60 and moving around 400+lbs, the joints start to go. He's lost 70lbs so far, but his knees are completely shot. At this point the damage is done. However, he's faithfully paid into SSI for decades, it's about time he could draw on it. "Fat" people aren't all lazy sloths. He's put 40 some years in of working for a pitiful pension, and the SSDI will keep my IL not rich, but no longer on the brink of despair.

 

[pdsavage]

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There are plenty of babies and children getting SSI the amount you get is not what is put in over the years its based on how much income you have.If you/parent have no income or very little you get the max amount.Now Im no expert but I don't belive children/babies have paid any social security.

 

[Two Creeks Farm]

No you are correct, a child will benefit and it will not be based on their income, but it is based against a scale determined by the state based on the taxpayers charged with their care(income) and against a table that states how much payout should be based on age. The same is said of welfare, why do you think welfare babies were/are all the rage? More babies, more money.....the system is broken. I am all for helping people in need, but do not want one cent helping those that are milking the system for the sole purpose of not working,.......or on drugs.....or here illegally.

Wife worked for SS for years....im not expert but did pay attention to some of it LOL!

 

[Wifezilla]

Lack of exercise? What do they get, like an hour a day to walk around a yard?

It's the food. It's all starches and sugars.
http://www.westonaprice.org/soy-alert/1624​

 

[pdsavage]

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It's the food. It's all starches and sugars.
http://www.westonaprice.org/soy-alert/1624

Not side trac this thread,but the illinois department of corrections is not run very well.

 

[chickened]

Ya them poor cons just don't ever seem to get a break. Maybe we should buy them weight watchers cuisine and Jenny Craig plan? Just a thought

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It's the food. It's all starches and sugars.
http://www.westonaprice.org/soy-alert/1624

 

[chickened]

Has anything good ever come out of Illinois politics?
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It's the food. It's all starches and sugars.
http://www.westonaprice.org/soy-alert/1624

Not side trac this thread,but the illinois department of corrections is not run very well.

 

[arabianequine]

It does say individual is $674. I was not wrong there. On the other hand there are variations in other states too. These links should help us understand better it did me.

So after my reading....SSD and SSDI are the same thing and SSA. The benefits come from being paid in by the person or persons working.

SSI is a different funded program much like welfare and where that money comes from.

Some states supplement the SSI payments with other programs which may make a higher benefit amount then the $674 monthly. A list of the states that do that are in one of the links below.


http://www.ssa.gov/ssi/text-benefits-ussi.htm

http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/85/~/supplemental-security-income-benefit-amount

http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/app/ans...2LzEvdGltZS8xMzA3Mzk1NDk1L3NpZC9jcFNHNlN2aw==

 

[PineappleMama]

This thing, for me at least, is not just about stopping an adult from killing themself with my paycheck... if they want to kill themselves there are thousands of ways, maybe millions, and you can't legislate against all of them though the government does seem to try...

I'm more concerned about the households with kids, kids they use to boost up their benefit amounts, than I am about single adults doing damage to themselves. I can live with a handful of those idiots. As someone posted about the trial the percentage of users wasn't that high, but how many of those were single? If single, if they're set on destroying themselves they'll find a way. But standing by and doing nothing when you KNOW that children are going hungry because their food money is being spent on drugs... doing nothing when those kids are in a home with a drugged out person who may very well do them harm not even counting the starving threat.

That is a totally different ball of wax. THAT is the main reason I would be behind this. I think EVERY child should have a stable and safe home. Growing up with drugs, alcohol and every kind of abuse I feel very strongly about that. MY kids deserve better, which is why I'm not a user, but also other kids do too. I know that every kid isn't my personal responsibility... I didn't bring them into this world... not my job to get them to school, check their homework, yada yada... but that doesn't make it okay for me to hand their parent a crack pipe either.

If by doing these tests ONE child is saved... from abuse, from neglect, from death, or from growing up condemned to repeat that cycle then to me it's worth the costs. Even if that price tag is millions... for one child... still worth it.