Flushes for aiding in toxin removal

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It maybe too stressful to separate them but try and see how it goes. Why do you feel the need to do it?

Sounds like progress is slow but encouraging, How old is lila? and why a flush do you think she got into something toxic?
 
It maybe too stressful to separate them but try and see how it goes. Why do you feel the need to do it?

Sounds like progress is slow but encouraging, How old is lila? and why a flush do you think she got into something toxic?
hi, well i'm not sure and there is really no vet around, so folks that i have asked suggested everything from lack of nutrients, non-visible injury, worms, bacteria, toxin from the pond being so low this summer, .....I've been able to hopefully correctly rule out anything that would include/display respiratory, also her wings are not hanging or splayed when she sits, she is preening, eating, drinking, and seems to appreciate tepid bath time, so we thought that we would do a flush for 3 days, i'm using a quality pro-biotic, I will call around to perhaps get some tylosin, have some on hand asap, this morning we thought that we would offer her (and him) some lightly steamed (well soaked overnight) organic steel cut oats, along with some banana, kale, their mash, a good sprinkle of nutritional yeast......does this sound all ok? Thought about separating her, just to give her complete individual attention and space, no mating happening, and actually Ronnie is being a good friend to her, waiting until she eats a little before his beak barges in, and sleeping closer by than usual, he does occasionally and very gently nip at her feathers just to get her up and walking.......It's a big learning curve to NOT have vet's andall the medicine one might need to help, right on hand....thanks for helping lila and us thru this!
 
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Flushes are hard on them to so watch her close and make sure to follow direction. If she isn't showing any outward symptoms of illness by that I mean she is eating good drinking normal poop looks normal then I would hold off on an antibiotic until done with flush and then wait a day to see how she is acting.
How long has she been on the Nutritional yeast?
Will they eat banana? give it too them if they will eat it and the rest sounds fine. Mine get steel cut oats along with other things in their Fermented feed.

Any way you can get a video of her walking and just being herself? If a toxin she will also have limber neck muscles plus staggering.
 
Flushes are hard on them to so watch her close and make sure to follow direction. If she isn't showing any outward symptoms of illness by that I mean she is eating good drinking normal poop looks normal then I would hold off on an antibiotic until done with flush and then wait a day to see how she is acting.
How long has she been on the Nutritional yeast?
Will they eat banana? give it too them if they will eat it and the rest sounds fine. Mine get steel cut oats along with other things in their Fermented feed.

Any way you can get a video of her walking and just being herself? If a toxin she will also have limber neck muscles plus staggering.
thank you so much! ok, I will also follow the directions for the electrolytes......the fermented food sounds like something we would be very interested in learning more about for them too. it's just about 7am here right now, I will ask a friend/neighbour to get a short video and poop photos tdy...........asap
 
just started them on nutritional yeast, she has always had strong healthy legs, (him too...almost7) she's almost 2, one thing though that might be helpful info, she came to live with us when she was just about 7 months old, she has never really been laying eggs, maybe a dozen, the last 2 being rubber, she was eating a "layer" organic mash, along with her foraging for several hours a day.
 
I have a 10 yr old gander and a 5yr old goose my goose just stopped laying this past spring breeding season. Still very healthy so I finally got over being worried sick. lol

So in her 2 years she has laid about a doz. eggs plus the last 2 were rubbery? Did she lay those this year?

Look forward to pics. another thing you may want to consider but lets do one at a time is worming. Our poop inspector is also our worming expert so once we get poop pics I will invite her here to have a look.
 
I have a 10 yr old gander and a 5yr old goose my goose just stopped laying this past spring breeding season. Still very healthy so I finally got over being worried sick. lol

So in her 2 years she has laid about a doz. eggs plus the last 2 were rubbery? Did she lay those this year?

Look forward to pics. another thing you may want to consider but lets do one at a time is worming. Our poop inspector is also our worming expert so once we get poop pics I will invite her here to have a look.
ok great, lila laid an egg and kept walking the first day she arrived, then during the summer of 2016 she laid another 4-5 eggs she made her nest in a comfy corner etc, but paid no attention to the egg(s) after she laid it, it was a good egg (S) then this spring and summer she laid another 6-7 over a few weeks, prepared nested in early morning, laid the egg and then wanted to go out foraging and swimming.....last couple were very rubbery....
 
It's unusual when a female goose doesn't want to sit even though my goose didn't lay this year she still went in a laid on my Muscovy eggs didn't stay but liked sitting on them for a while.

Laying soft shelled or no shell isn't something to be concerned about unless they keep it up, sometimes when they first start up laying and their body is working out all the kinks of laying they can lay them and also at end of laying too. Just make sure she is getting a good supply of calcium in oyster shell and greens. If you do feed layer that helps too.
 
It's unusual when a female goose doesn't want to sit even though my goose didn't lay this year she still went in a laid on my Muscovy eggs didn't stay but liked sitting on them for a while.

Laying soft shelled or no shell isn't something to be concerned about unless they keep it up, sometimes when they first start up laying and their body is working out all the kinks of laying they can lay them and also at end of laying too. Just make sure she is getting a good supply of calcium in oyster shell and greens. If you do feed layer that helps too.
lila (white Muscovy) is quite uninterested in greens, over the past 2 yrs we managed to find some here and there that she'll eat in small quantities, our drake friend eats alot more, is organic tofu ok for them as well, it is one of the foods that she loves, and will eat in addition to mash. She has had a good swim in bathtub and is now resting in a crate in the bathroom for a while, a friend said they will come by this afternoon to take photos etc... but here's my report, lila seems to use her legs well in water to turn, and her neck muscles all seem ok, and when I lifted her out of the tub, she stood ok and started preening, still standing, it was when she started to take a step towards the crate that she went down, I helped her to stand again, she was fine, I put her closer to the crate, so she just had to lift a leg over the edge into the crate, when she did this she went down, no longer pitching forward like the first day, but straight down quickly. Once inside the crate she stood to continue cleaning/preening/drinking.....her eyes are bright she alert....her poop in greenish mostly right now (in the bath water)......could this be an accumulated lack of nutrients? (she does eat peas, a little bit of berries, and lots of foraging around pond until winter)
 

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