Food, suggestions, and ages

[chickens really]

Ducks have a way different need for nutrition than chickens. Two different species..

 

[Lil Drake40]

 

[casportpony]

Angel wing is not well understood. My fast growing Muscovies get 27% turkey starter and they don't have issues with angel wing. I'm not saying that protein isn't a factor, or that one should feed what I feed, but I do think that one needs to look at all of the duck's nutritional requirements.

 

[Lil Drake40]

 

[casportpony]

Peas are actually only 5.2% protein.
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2525/2

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Peas are actually only 5.2% protein.
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2525/2
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I'm gonna go ahead and beg to differ, Please let me tell you what my brain says... If peas are 77 calories and the protein from them is 18 calories... Don't birds eat to meet their caloric (energy need) and not a certain volume or weight per say? So 18/77 calories being protein would make that about 23% of the total calories coming from protein. PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong?

That being said if feathers are made from 90% protein, slowing down their growth by reducing overall growth *could* prevent angel wing. Reducing protein and increasing carbs might slow the growth of muscle and add fat instead (I don't know for real). I would suggest using a lights out routine... IF that works for ducks, I put my feed up at night and did so when I raised them. Yes, I realize chickens and ducks have different nutritional requirements... all information I gave was relevant to ducks, I think.

 

[Miss Lydia]

Yep that is why Purina Flock raiser is a good one for our birds since it is formulated for all poultry.

 

[DrHawkeye07]

Don't forget that protein provides 4 kcal per gram. So when working backwards from calories, you divide by 4 to get grams of protein, which then can be used to find your % (this % would be based on weight of protein in the weight of a serving of your feed).

 

[casportpony]

Don't forget that protein provides 4 kcal per gram. So when working backwards from calories, you divide by 4 to get grams of protein, which then can be used to find your % (this % would be based on weight of protein in the weight of a serving of your feed).

Okay, you lost me there, lol. Can you explain that in a different way, 'cause I get seriously stuck on stupid.

 

[DrHawkeye07]

If peas are 77 calories and the protein from them is 18 calories... Don't birds eat to meet their caloric (energy need) and not a certain volume or weight per say? So 18/77 calories being protein would make that about 23% of the total calories coming from protein.

This is correct, but percent of calories from protein is not the same as percent of protein per serving.

So continuing with the above example, if peas have 18 calories from protein, we should divide by 4 (since each gram of protein contain 4 calories) to get 4.5 grams of protein. If we say a serving is 100 grams, then the percent protein is 4.5%, which is in the ballpark of what @casportpony found in the food labeling