Frizzle Chicks hatched from DipsyDoodleDoo's frizzle eggs

[ItsSuzzie]

One more time. I hatched two Frizzle chicks in 2008 but I do not know which of my Cochin laid the egg. I gave these chicks away cause they were muts. I thought my Roo was a Giant Black Cochin and found out he was a Black Langshan.

The Chicks

The Roo

Now I am waiting for my young Roo to mature and hoping the bird is not fooling me and desides to lay and egg instead.

Introducing young Roo (I hope), Storm

 

[Dipsy Doodle Doo]

Thanks!
ShelleyB, The Frizz girls are not laying well right now (2 or 3 eggs a day from 17 girls is just sad), but I'll let you know when they pick back up.

DDD: Do you have the colors separated? Or do they get to mix?

Separated to suit me

My girls in the Frizzle pen are blue and black Frizzle Cochins and Frizzled Cochin x Silkie crosses (some people call them Sizzles).
There are also a couple of blue frizzled Naked Neck hens .

The roo in the pen is a smooth 'lemon blue with the barring gene' Cochin.

Lisa​

 

[Hooterville]

HI all,
I was under the impression that the smooth feathered would not carry the frizzle gene. They either have it and frizzle themselves or they don't. Someone explain please!

I was asking because I ended up with several frizzled roos from DDD and a couple of smooth feathered pullets. I don't want them to breed if it may result in that frazzle thing where the feathers are then and tend to break.

I'm clueless on the genetics thing, but I'm trying to learn!

Becky

 

[shelleyb1969]

Thanks Dipsy....I'll keep saving up my mad money!

 

[Dipsy Doodle Doo]

I was under the impression that the smooth feathered would not carry the frizzle gene. They either have it and frizzle themselves or they don't.

That is my understanding as well, Becky.
There is something in Hutts Genetics of the Fowl, about 'modified heterogygous frizzling that is recognizable only by slightly raised feathers on neck and breast' on this page (the section on Frizzling starts on p.106 and that bit is on p. 109).
I've never seen that here. Either they are frizzled or they aren't and I only get frizzled chicks if one of the parents is frizzled.

Lisa
edited because link didn't work right.

edited again because Silkie plumage is on p. 106. Frizzled plumage starts bottom of p. 107​

 

[jjackm21911]

adorable

 

[Hooterville]

Thanks, Dipsey! I want to avoid the frazzle thing if at all possible!

Off to check the link now!

 

[cmom]

Love those pics!!!

 

[ChooksinIowa]

Yes, as I understand it the frizzle gene is dominant. Each bird will have 2 parents and get half of its genetic makeup from each parent. Many genes are generally either dominant or recessive (there are lots of variations on this but I don't want to confuse folks). The frizzle gene is dominant, which means that if it gets that gene from one parent or the other, it will show the frizzling. If it isn't frizzled, it shouldn't be carrying the gene because if it was carrying the gene, it would express it.

As I understand it, birds that are homozygous for the frizzle gene (i.e. have 2 copies, one from each parent) don't look good at all and have poor feathering all over, which is why one should not breed frizzle to frizzle.

I'm trained in plant genetics, not chicken genetics, but the basic concepts of genetics are the same regardless of species, so if the dominance of the frizzle gene is indeed correct, you can't have a "carrier" bird that isn't frizzled itself.

 

[pbjmaker]

Hmm I always thought that even if they could be a carrier if they were smooth feathered. I knew it was bad though to breed frizzled to frizzled. Learn something new every day. BTW Dipsey - you sent my red and blue feathered frizzle egg to Claire.