Ok, ok, I know I shouldn't have but i did slightlly candle them from inside the bator, I did not take them out, but they are all alive! For now, however, I do have 2 that appear to be up side down, all the others bills are poking at the top of the air cell, the other 2 are near the narrow part of the egg away from the air sac, but I can see their bills unless they haven't totally reached the air sac however they are the ones that I noticed moving before the other ones have started, so they are most likely the ones that are in danger of losing their lives. Myt question is, I know it is a risk of Shrink Wrap, before the others pip, should I set up the Genesis and get it warmed up for these 2 and see what I can do? Should I intervene with those 2 tonight if nothing is taking place? I feel that time is ticking away for these buggers. But then again, I could be totally wrong. As I said, I did the candling quickly and not touching the shell, enough light to see what was going on, and no one has pipped. But there is certainly a difference in position with the 2 out of the 6. I know, I know, let nature take care of itself. At least I know which ones to hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. Hopefully those 2 will turn themselves into the upright position.