Gallimycin label question - "replacement pullets"?

[Wynette]

I don't think Gumpsgirl will mind - I copied this over from the original post about my sick pullet:

Hey Wynette! I was able to talk to Dr. Pierson about the Gallimycin. Let me first tell you who this vet is. He is the head vet in the poultry science dept. at Virginia Tech, which is a veterinarian school. He teaches as well as handles poultry cases from all over VA. With that in mind and knowing his backround, I now want to give you the advice he gave to me although it does contradict what Dr. Brown told you. He said that Gallimycin is actually one of the few approved antibiotics for egg laying hens. It is even used in commercial layers through their feed. He did recommend that you give the hens a full clutch cycle to rid themselves of the antibiotic plus a few days after you discontinue the Gallimycin. So it would be 12 days and then the eggs will be fine to eat. I hope this answers your question about the Gallimycin. As much as I like Dr. Brown, value his opinions, and appreciate his advice and help, I personally would also take into consideration Dr. Pierson's advice and knowledge, since he is constantly being updated on the new treatments, etc...

 

[keljonma]

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Yes, that is where I got the information from.

 

[jmc]

Qhluvr and Keljonma:

Sorry, I read too hastily. If I had paid more attention I would have seen the obvious: that you were citing the ultimate chicken doctor.

This is such bad news. I just bought Tylan 50 for my 7 sneezers, and now I probably won't use it--don't dare, if I'm gonna generate hundreds of tainted eggs.

A real shame.

I guess I haven't read labels attentively enough, cuz they do say 'not for use with hens laying eggs intended for human consumption' (that, by the way, is a statement from an Aureomycin packet)

edited to say that:
Yet, two other chicken doctors state that the Tylan 50 withdrawal period is one month

 

[jmc]

http://www.afn.org/~poultry/newsletr/1996/psep96.pdf

This is the link to the Dr(s). who would say differently from Dr. Brown.

Read the section on 'Bacterial Diseases' (see 'withdrawal time......')

Does anyone know what they're talking about, really?

I will make no such claim for myself......

 

[Wynette]

I understand your frustration, John. It's nerve-wracking and worrisome making the decision on what to treat with, if anything. I guess you just have to really educate yourself and make the best decision you can with the info. you have. GOOD LUCK!

 

[Wynette]

John, I just read most of the article you posted; do you know where it came from? I could not find a date on the article. I'm wondering if the information is old or new? I did note they spoke of a meeting or an event that happend in the late 90s, so I'm wondering how old this info. is.

Incidentally, I read with intereste the section titled, Mega-Jumbo egg - it stated someone had a chicken egg that weighed 3.9 ounces, and that it was the biggest recorded in some 35 years....I had one that weighed exactly 4.0 ounce this past April from one of my EE hens!

I guess I tend to believe the poultry vet quoted by Gumpsgirl, since he's heading up a poultry program at a university. I would tend to believe his information would be most current. JMO, though!

 

[jmc]

Wynette,

Apparently it comes from 1996. Somewhat dated, in fact.

And yes, I too would be inclined to go with Gumpsgirls sources.

But, you've treated some of your birds with Tylan already, and other BYCers use it too. So I guess all those hens and all those eggs of all those people are unsafe, then.

the upshot then seems to be, in fact:

"If you have a hen intended for laying, and she gets ill, you can do nothing to help her other than Gallimycin and VET Rx."

Wow.

Yet two pros told me to use Terramycin, which I did, which is also FORBIDDEN for use in laying hens. Yet this soluble is advertised everywhere.

No I won't hijack your thread. Maybe I'll air my complaint in another one. Sorry.

As for your FOUR OZ. EGG: here's your chance for fame

Hugs to our little splash!!!

 

[Wynette]

I don't feel like you're hijacking, John! This is a converation regarding treating layer pullets with antibiotics/meds, and whether or not there is a withdrawal period. I'm hoping others hop on & give their opinions, as well - I'd be curious to know if others have eaten eggs post-treatement with Tylan, Gallimycin, Terramycin, or other antibiotics.

 

[jmc]

Oh well, started other post already...

Let's see what happens

Also, got neat info on Oxine. Must post that soon.

Just let me say now that the BioCide Int'l. rep who I spoke to ( a poultry guy) doesn't recommend a hand sprayer as effective.... But that is also another post. He suggests at least a COOL MIST humidifier/vaporizer such as you can get for 20- at a WalM. or drugstore. Start birds in there for 15 minutes a whack, 3X daily............

 

[Wynette]

Yes, it's supposed to work well if you have a fungal/sinus infection, but otherwise it's just used as a disinfectant. Also, when you use Oxine one poultry, you need to make sure to give probiotics at least one week a month, I was told, to get the bacteria back into their gut. I'll go look at your other posts.