Game rooster behavior and fighting

[roosterhavoc]

So, the people posting and giving advice on the forum should have hands-on experience.
I agree that's best, when available.

But when I ask the people who have more hands-on experience to impart some of their earned wisdom, I am told I have an 'entitled mentality'.

So now I all need to do is figure out if I have an entitled mentality when I ask questions of people with hands-on experience...

If the shoe fits lace it up. If not don’t worry about it. Simple as that.

 

[ElizaMay]

If the shoe fits lace it up. If not don’t worry about it. Simple as that.

Okay, enough of me being PC, subtlety is not apparently your fine suit.

YOU are the one who wrote I had an 'entitled mentality' for thinking to ask questions of experienced people and learn from them.

YOU are also writing that only people who have hands-on experience should be posting advice, else they are stroking their own egos for, what was it, 'warm and fuzzies'?

According to that logic, this forum is 'sacred ground' which should only be trod upon by those who've been around poultry for ages, (and certified by you as being legit) while newer folk should basically remove our sandals, kneel, and listen in silent awe.

THIS IS A BACKYARD CHICKEN FORUM, by definition not for pros and businesses, and open to all to ask any sort of genuine question, give what they think is a correct answer, or give opinions. BYC is where PEOPLE COME TO SHARE SND LEARN FROM ONE ANOTHER WITHOUT BEING INSULTED OR TOLD THEIR THINKING IS ENTITLED.

I'm lacing my sandals back on, ignoring your contradictory and contrary posts, and no longer worrying about you until and if I see reason to do otherwise.
Simple as that.

 

[theoldchick]

My FIL breeds game birds. All his male birds are kept in separated pens. His males will started fighting at six weeks of age so he has no option. Game birds, while hardy and easy to raise, do require more management than the typical backyard chicken. The males need to be housed separate with a solid partition between them as they will fight through the wire and damage themselves. You can also house them a several yards from each other but you may have certain gamey males that will still try to fight.

 

[Nashv755]

Very mature reply.
I just didn't have the free time from doing real life things sorry

As opposed to your comments

Typical I didn't research gamefowl now it's the birds fault.

If you actually ""READ"" this thread you'd know I've had a pair of this breed for 2 years and has been fine with multiple roosters. I actually did a lot of research and talked to multiple people who own and raise them before hatching my original 2. One of the 6 month olds that I got from another breeder is the only one I've had an issue with so far and I was trying to determine if it was typical game behavior of a more aggressive breed meaning he may have more of the original aggressive line, or some kind of chicken mental disorder. This breed in the US is typically a watered down version of the original line from Belgium with most of the looks but not as aggressive. But thanks for the enlightening conversation I've learned so much, thank you, your wonderful

 

[roosterhavoc]

As opposed to your comments

If you actually ""READ"" this thread you'd know I've had a pair of this breed for 2 years and has been fine with multiple roosters. I actually did a lot of research and talked to multiple people who own and raise them before hatching my original 2. One of the 6 month olds that I got from another breeder is the only one I've had an issue with so far and I was trying to determine if it was typical game behavior of a more aggressive breed meaning he may have more of the original aggressive line, or some kind of chicken mental disorder. This breed in the US is typically a watered down version of the original line from Belgium with most of the looks but not as aggressive. But thanks for the enlightening conversation I've learned so much, thank you, your wonderful

If you actually did your research you’d know that this breed isn’t game, isn’t referred to as gamefowl and aren’t anywhere close in behavior to gamefowl.
There’s plenty of roosters out there that can be aggressive regardless of breed. Some like American games are just much more aggressive and more likely to fight.
What the few of you guys don’t realize is @sdm111 me and a few others have been correcting and helping people for quite a few years. Trying hard to prevent the know it all’s from walking outside to a complete and utter sh*tshow with dead birds everywhere. This has happened quite a few times and could have been prevented if only people would listen. I’m well aware that any time some of you see a rooster fight with another it immediately seems like an aggressive bird but that’s hardly the case until you actually have seen an aggressive bird and the damage they can do. One mistake like a full grown cock gaining access to other penned birds turns into an absolute nightmare real fast.
When this happens these people are all ears. The truth is most people won’t listen and will end up learning the hard way. I try to help anyone that I can by preventing these mistakes but lose interest real quick when someone is just trying to *win* a forum debate.

 

[ElizaMay]

Some hard times going on in gamefowl/gamebird land.
I am sorry it has become a thread where feelings are being hurt for no good reason - they are an interesting topic, but apparently devisive here too.

 

[Nashv755]

If you actually did your research you’d know that this breed isn’t game, isn’t referred to as gamefowl and aren’t anywhere close in behavior to gamefowl.
There’s plenty of roosters out there that can be aggressive regardless of breed. Some like American games are just much more aggressive and more likely to fight.

Yes i know they aren't considered game in the states, not even a recognized breed here but were originally bread for fighting in Belgium. They are referred to as one of the last 2 or 3 remaining breeds of Belgium "game". I think the 3rd might be extinct now. I'm not sure if there's a difference in game and gamefowl but i never referred to Liege as gamefowl.

We had an aggressive rooster (for a yard bird) when i was a kid. Attacked anything that wasn't chicken, nobody went outside without a stick. Even chased cars down the driveway flogging the tires. The only time I've seen a rooster as aggressive as the one i started the thread over was in the ring on video in the Philippines. Took him all of 2 seconds to send the looser running. Run him down, grabbed them by the base of the head and road him to the ground as he kicked and wing slapped them from behind. Wasn't no break for the little staring contest. When he started it was nonstop until i could stop it. And when i did stop it, it was all of 2 seconds he was in a full sprint to the next rooster he saw. That doesn't seem like RIR levels of aggression to me.

 

[Nashv755]

Some hard times going on in gamefowl/gamebird land.
I am sorry it has become a thread where feelings are being hurt for no good reason - they are an interesting topic, but apparently devisive here too.

Yea it never fails, no matter what forum subject site you go to. There's always a gang of self-proclaimed know it all royalty that only seem to be able to answer questions that nobody asked because no matter what you say. They hear something completely different and just can't figure out why everybody finds them obnoxious yaw can have it im out

 

[JadeFarms]

Okay, enough of me being PC, subtlety is not apparently your fine suit.

YOU are the one who wrote I had an 'entitled mentality' for thinking to ask questions of experienced people and learn from them.

YOU are also writing that only people who have hands-on experience should be posting advice, else they are stroking their own egos for, what was it, 'warm and fuzzies'?

According to that logic, this forum is 'sacred ground' which should only be trod upon by those who've been around poultry for ages, (and certified by you as being legit) while newer folk should basically remove our sandals, kneel, and listen in silent awe.

THIS IS A BACKYARD CHICKEN FORUM, by definition not for pros and businesses, and open to all to ask any sort of genuine question, give what they think is a correct answer, or give opinions. BYC is where PEOPLE COME TO SHARE SND LEARN FROM ONE ANOTHER WITHOUT BEING INSULTED OR TOLD THEIR THINKING IS ENTITLED.

I'm lacing my sandals back on, ignoring your contradictory and contrary posts, and no longer worrying about you until and if I see reason to do otherwise.
Simple as that.

BYC is a chicken website. That means that when people are spreading false information they will be corrected. Especially because these are living animals. He is correcting the mistakes he sees here. There is absolutely nothing wrong or insulting about that. I’m not sure why you are so offended by that. Maybe grow some thicker skin.

 

[JadeFarms]

Yea it never fails, no matter what forum subject site you go to. There's always a gang of self-proclaimed know it all royalty that only seem to be able to answer questions that nobody asked because no matter what you say. They hear something completely different and just can't figure out why everybody finds them obnoxious yaw can have it im out

You mean more experienced people trying to correct the people who are spreading misinformation?