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Thank you so much!! See the blue one? Guessing you can tell which are Gold Lace Blue & Gold Lace Black at hatch? Wonder if it will get harder to tell blue from black as they grow? I was thinking the cinnamon ones are quite dark too, but I'm looking at them with an amateur eye...so much to learn. Our stock is from Marc. Now the question is whether to cross with our blacks or get some unrelated GLO's? If we cross with black do you know what we'll get... 50/50 black & GL or black with GL gene?

I had a feeling yours came from Marc. Goodness, it's gotten to the point where I can look at chicks and tell their parent's bloodline. I need a life away from these babies
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I don't know what will happen after their first molt, but you will be able to tell the blues from the blacks. It will increasingly become more obvious, especially in a side to side comparison. Yes, you can tell at hatch. Look closely at the underfluff. Also, most of the time the GL Black will have darker legs at hatch. It changes quickly though.

Honestly, I would only cross to black if you are trying to correct the background color. Crossing to black will set you back 3 generations without lacing. Crossing father to daughter/granddaughter/great grand daughter will give you a new strain without losing the lacing along the way and with the ability to pick and choose which female has the best lacing and breed her to her father. I personally would choose line breeding over outcrossing, but there are other schools of thought.

What I have noticed is that the Marc chicks don't reliably lace from first feathering. What does that mean? I don't know, really. I have two Greenfire juvenile pullets (the moms to some of my chicks) that did not either and they eventually laced. Perhaps Marc's bloodline just takes a bit longer to lace. I have heard from one other person that has Marc chicks that is noticing the same thing. Late bloomers? I bring this up so that you don't cull too soon with the Marc chicks.
 
The one on the left was just in the picture, right? This isn't a GL, is it?
It is a GL just as blue as can be so was thinking it was the Gold Lace Blue since our hens are Gold Lace Blue
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Have more to go in lockdown tomorrow see what they hatch. I was thinking that crossing with black would take 3 gen but wasn't sure how the lacing works Thank you for your knowledge it's priceless!
 
That thought was on my mind
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As you know, I have more k's than I could possibly keep. If a juvenile would work, I don't see that as a problem. They've just hatched though, and I wasn't sure if you'd be willing to wait. I do see the green sheen from first feathering. Didn't realize that was your focus. Sorry. I thought you were trying to just not inbreed.

Will you be keeping both GL Blue and GL Black? I think that would make a difference in your choice of k. I have bred Max and Rock Star with a Greenfire pullet and a Marc pullet. I would think that you would benefit more from the Greenfire?
 
As you know, I have more k's than I could possibly keep. If a juvenile would work, I don't see that as a problem. They've just hatched though, and I wasn't sure if you'd be willing to wait. I do see the green sheen from first feathering. Didn't realize that was your focus. Sorry. I thought you were trying to just not inbreed.

Will you be keeping both GL Blue and GL Black? I think that would make a difference in your choice of k. I have bred Max and Rock Star with a Greenfire pullet and a Marc pullet. I would think that you would benefit more from the Greenfire?Sent you a
Dee, sent you a PM
 
Deek,

Could you post an adult cock and hen from each line please? When you have time.. at different ages for us to learn from. pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Vicki, I'd be happy to do so. I'll work on it this weekend. Today I'm cleaning the stable stalls to move the chicken nuggets in there, temporarily, until it warms up and they can be moved to the their grow out pen. It will take me all day
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I even mop
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