Good speech

[Ridgerunner]

I blame Newt for a lot of the problem. Before he polarized the parties so much, the members of the different parties could socialize together, actually be friends. The might have philosophical differences but they knew each other as people and could often work these things out. Now it is so polarized that they can't give any philosophical ground and work out a solution.

Not that it always was a bed of roses. Politics has always been a rough and tumble business. And things have been pretty polarized in the past. I'll offer Andrew Jackson as an example. But the art of politics has been compromise. Get enough of what you want so that you can come up with a workable solution. Now it is all or nothing. There is no art in that, no working the craft of politics to reach a workable solution. That is just stubbornness.

Anyway, that is my opinion.

 

[epignosisjs]

Neither party is blameless. Neither party wants to be responsible for making the "hard cuts" they keep talking about.
I think that scaring the elderly is shameful, particularly when their checks should and will go out.
The politicians aren't speaking specifically to the horrendous, wasteful spending practices and duplicative programs. The American taxpayers are not in control of their own checkbook. The government is enabling/encouraging THOUSANDS to be nonproductive by offering freebie programs. That is just cruel.
I'm not talking about those who need a hand up. Those programs were meant to assist people who need help. But there is a great deal of abuse going on in the programs, let's clean that up.

The math in D.C. doesn't work out. Spending > Revenue = Red Ink, regardless of the current party in D.C.
And, unfortunately with the government >Revenue = >Spending = we're in the same boat year after year, and sinking.

Here is an example of what we are paying for out of the Social Security Budget:

They aren't supposed to be "spending" it on anything but paying out the benefits.

 

[Orchid]

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Exactly.

The fate of countless great nations who went before awaits us...

 

[debilorrah]

I, for once, am going to claim ignorant bliss. I didn't watch it. I watched a show about scientists from the 16th century.

 

[Farmerboy16]

I did not see Obama's speech, if I did, who know what I would have done.

Can't stand him. My mom said that only thing that Obama is good at is making flowering speeches that does more harm then good.

Cedar Rapids, Iowa - Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann issued the following statement in response to President Obama’s speech on the national debt crisis:

“Shame on President Obama for casting the American people aside as collateral damage, as he continues his political gamesmanship with the national debt crisis. The problem with the president’s plan is that he’s operating from the wrong assumption — that we need to increase the debt limit to pay for increased spending. Despite what President Obama says, the people of this country understand what raising the debt limit means. It’s the President who doesn’t grasp the magnitude of our national debt; he compares it to ‘a little credit card debt’ when, in fact, our ‘national credit cards’ are maxed out.

“President Obama isn’t listening to the American people. Not one person in Iowa, New Hampshire or South Carolina has told me that we need a ‘balanced approach,’ which, of course, is code for higher taxes and spending. Let me be clear: I will not vote to raise the debt limit. The Congress and the President should not raise the debt limit. Rather than scaring seniors and veterans, it’s time to make the tough choices and make the spending cuts necessary to put our nation on the path to prosperity, lower spending and a balanced budget.”

I am done now.

 

[HHandbasket]

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How is he blaming others? He's willing to take his share of the blame, or did you not hear anything he said?

Bottom line is, he inherited a mess that even the most well-meaning President (REGARDLESS OF PARTY OR POLITICAL AFFILIATION!!!) could never fix after the Bush administration. I was soooooo ready to vote for McCain and wanted him to be president because I think he would have done a much better job, but then Sarah opened her mouth and started talking and ruined the whole darn thing.

By the way, I'm a "conservative democrat". I have called my self a "liberative". I don't vote my party… I vote my conscience. Unless he significantly changes his tune, I will not vote to re-elect Obama because he's not tough enough.

I think there are a lot of misunderstandings on all sides of the budget crisis issue as far as the American people are concerned, and I agree with one thing our President said last night: This 3-ring circus nonsense in Washington has got to stop, and it's happening on BOTH sides of the aisle. Stop the fingerpointing.

I know that if they go into default and veterans benefits are cut, though, as my DH is a disabled vet who served in Desert Storm, we will probably be homeless within 2 months. We cannot afford to live without his VA benefits. Both our jobs were eliminated in 2009 & we have been floundering ever since. If we lose his VA benefits, we'll be selling off our chickens and everything else and be living out of our '88 Isuzu.

 

[cupman]

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You can't stand him cause mom says so?

 

[cupman]

It certainly says a lot about your party when helping old, sick or poor people is political career suicide. Still waiting for that trickle down economics to work. It's time to hike taxes on the rich.

 

[Farmerboy16]

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You can't stand him cause mom says so?

No! I make my own choices. I disagree with him, as I am very conservative, and feel very strongly for our country, and I am sadden me that its is going down the drain, unless something is done about it. Obama, and some others are in the way of our recovering. That is all.

 

[Farmerboy16]

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Taxing the rich is not going to help at all! It creates more issues. What needs to be done is CUT the SPENDING on ALL unnecessary things.