Got myself in a bit of duck-breeding trouble...

[Loopeend]

Oh

Ok i understand

If your incubator is large enough to hold all the eggs, I would allow the new eggs to sit one or two days, upright in a carton after shipping (depending how bad the air cells are), and set them on Sunday or Monday. Increase humidity on the current eggs on the day you originally planned - I assume Sunday or Monday. You can hand-turn the new eggs a few times until you see pips in the current eggs. Then I’d leave them alone while the other ones hatch. A couple days of higher humidity and no turning wont hurt them.

If you can make a divider in the incubator to separate the two sets of eggs, I would recommend it, to keep the ducklings off the new eggs if possible.

That’s what I would do.

Thank you.
A devider will not be possible is my first thought.
I just learned incubator-hatchery-brooder, that that are the proper English terms in the right chronolocically way. Because 'hatchery' is not a thing here.
All incubators are made to be an incubator and hatchery at once; and at a pip they go directly to the brooder. The whole "hatchery' step is non-existened. I am willing to try to create one. At day 28 I have to change the incubator in a hatchery by removing and replacing parts. What can newborn ducklings actually do to other eggs?
If I understand that I might be able to come up with a better sollution. Adjust something in the machine. To prevent what new ducklings would do.

This is the incubator, made in 1964. If they start to come out you insert them on another tray (the cat is laying on that). The lower tray is going up so they don't burn their heads on lamps, and corks in holes (not visible on pictures) go out to let more fresh air in. It is made for 40 eggs; but it seems quite full to me with these 12 eggs.. But I see room to remove one of these beams the eggs are laying on to make some devider?

 

[lomine]

I'm super curious. What is the breed you have been looking for for so long?

 

[WVduckchick]

Oh


Thank you.
A devider will not be possible is my first thought.
I just learned incubator-hatchery-brooder, that that are the proper English terms in the right chronolocically way. Because 'hatchery' is not a thing here.
All incubators are made to be an incubator and hatchery at once; and at a pip they go directly to the brooder. The whole "hatchery' step is non-existened. I am willing to try to create one. At day 28 I have to change the incubator in a hatchery by removing and replacing parts. What can newborn ducklings actually do to other eggs?
If I understand that I might be able to come up with a better sollution. Adjust something in the machine. To prevent what new ducklings would do.

View attachment 1743478This is the incubator, made in 1964. If they start to come out you insert them on another tray (the cat is laying on that). The lower tray is going up so they don't burn their heads on lamps, and corks in holes (not visible on pictures) go out to let more fresh air in. It is made for 40 eggs; but it seems quite full to me with these 12 eggs.. But I see room to remove one of these beams the eggs are laying on to make some devider?

Very interesting incubator!

Do you remove the tray they are on now, and put the tray the cat is on in its place and put the eggs on it? And do you add water to the tray underneath?

Maybe put those eggs on one side and the new eggs on the other side (or front and back) until after they hatch, then put it back the way it is now with the new eggs after they hatch.
The ducklings won’t hurt the new eggs, but they may crawl on top of them, move them around, or get the stuff that is sometimes left over inside the egg all over the new eggs.

I’m also curious, do those beams roll the eggs, or do you roll them yourself?

 

[Loopeend]

I'm super curious. What is the breed you have been looking for for so long?

The breed in Indian runner ducks.
In blue unbibbed and chocolate; 100% pure breed.
Most of the ones here are absultely NOT 100% pure. And blue unbibbed and/or chocolate really hard to find (fawn & white too by the way, but I don't breed fawn & white. I also don't breed chocolate, but the eggs also contain chocolate, also rare here)

 

[WannaBeHillBilly]

I really love that old incubator! That is the type of incubator i'd like to build one day, a cabinet with a glas or plexiglas door where you can put the eggs down on the floor when its time to hatch. The only part that might be hard to obtain will be a broody cat…

 

[Loopeend]

Very interesting incubator!

Do you remove the tray they are on now, and put the tray the cat is on in its place and put the eggs on it? And do you add water to the tray underneath?

Maybe put those eggs on one side and the new eggs on the other side (or front and back) until after they hatch, then put it back the way it is now with the new eggs after they hatch.
The ducklings won’t hurt the new eggs, but they may crawl on top of them, move them around, or get the stuff that is sometimes left over inside the egg all over the new eggs.

I’m also curious, do those beams roll the eggs, or do you roll them yourself?

You are totally correct how it works! On everything. Those beams aren't automated so we shift them by hand (if you roll one beam; all other roll too; if it where chicken eggs..since it is originally made for chicken eggs and not bigger duck-eggs. It's just those beams for around electric wires, on two nails. The previeuws duck owner made and adjustment to it to get a better temperature for duck). It's an oldy. But we can replace everything ourselves. If a bulb stops; we can replace it directly. In the newer onces if the heating-elements break or the electric-build-in-thermometer we can thrown all eggs out.. so allthough not most-automatic, and cleanest anymore, I'm quite pleased due to it's steadiness in temperature, and it gives us some quick repair-abbilities is it would mall-function.

If that is the case what is the danger; I guess I can make a devider between the older and newer eggs.
I spoke to a lot of old people here that allways have used this machine and still do; and they said they never had any problems with rasing the humidity when newer eggs were also in; it did not made a big difference it the hatching-rate.

 

[Loopeend]

I really love that old incubator! That is the type of incubator i'd like to build one day, a cabinet with a glas or plexiglas door where you can put the eggs down on the floor when its time to hatch. The only part that might be hard to obtain will be a broody cat…

I told you; the owner also gave me the building plans from 1964 and I can scan them in for you haha!
And it has a double-glass door! :O
And it works as side table out of incubator season!

 

[Loopeend]

Well; the 'succes 40' doesn't succesfully holds 40 ducks eggs, only 33. Not sure how to make a divider yet. Some old eggs look really not doing well; so candling now, probably will get some room.

It even has it's original sticker still on
And as you can see; it blends well in our even old 60's interior.

 

[WannaBeHillBilly]

Well; the 'succes 40' doesn't succesfully holds 40 ducks eggs, only 33. Not sure how to make a divider yet. Some old eggs look really not doing well; so candling now, probably will get some room.
View attachment 1745702
It even has it's original sticker still on
And as you can see; it blends well in our even old 60's interior.
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You could scan the plans and post them here as an article, so everybody can build a 1964 incubator. Btw: I guess there's enough room for 40 chicken eggs, therefore it is called Success 40.

 

[Loopeend]

Oh no... only 3 of the 12 are dead :'(
I was QUITE sure WAY more since they were REALLY hard to candle at day 10. We could only see the egg-air-sack being right on time, no blood-vessles due to thick shell or anything looking like anything, one seemed to vaguely have a blood-ring, two vaguely 'too loose' the rest really a question. Well the one with the vague bloodring definately has a detached air-sack, and the two 'too loose' had and increased air-sack right on time, but a not-grown black little blob swimming around like a whipped egg for making scrambled omelet. The rest is still not quite clear to see though, 1-2 look more full then the others and 1-2 less-full but more visible veiny, both with according egg-air-sacks, the rest all in the middle. so those we will just have to see what happends..
I was more betting on 1-3 alive if we were lucky.. oops.

So I guess it is more-humid heated hatchery-building time now..